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Although I'm slightly biased towards rebellion, I don't buy it. Innovation, as rebellion, happens when there's enough cracks in the model that enough people thi

by uola 10y ago

Although I'm slightly biased towards rebellion, I don't buy it. Innovation, as rebellion, happens when there's enough cracks in the model that enough people thinks something else is worthwhile. This usually happens when things are in flux and it's very much what is happening in China today. San Francisco is one of the most free and culturally accepting place in the world with all the world information at your finger tips, yet how many have the time for rebellion in between a six-figure job and massive housing cost?

chaostheory 10y ago
> happens when there's enough cracks in the model that enough people thinks something else is worthwhile There's always cracks when you have incumbents resting on their laurels. > This usually happens when things are in flux and it's very much what is happening in China today. There are key differences. 1. When you have to worry about what you think, what you say, and what you do; it has a toll on collaboration and creativity, 2. There's a different perception of failure. It's not as well tolerated as it is in the US, which limits experimentation and creativity, and 3. the most important factor: When the group, specifically your family, is more important than the individual; again there's a toll on creativity. ie. why pursue a crazy dream instead of upholding your duty and responsibility to take care of your parents? > yet how many have the time for rebellion in between a six-figure job and massive housing cost? Even in ideal conditions there's never that many, just enough; which makes it even worse when the conditions aren't ideal. Why sail a ship to uncharted waters when you can be comfy at home? Can one even think about sailing when you don't have the imagination for the wonderful places you will go? Really the only hope for innovation that places like China and Singapore have is with their immigration programs ie. Singapore actively encourages it. The only other things I can think of is how well policies are enforced and if the number of people who can circumvent the Great Firewall keeps steadily rising. Places where "the mountains are high and emperor is far away" may be able to produce something awesome one day if the authorities don't immediately interfere with things

by uola 10y ago

chaostheory 10y ago

> happens when there's enough cracks in the model that enough people thinks something else is worthwhile There's always cracks when you have incumbents resting on their laurels. > This usually happens when things are in flux and it's very much what is happening in China today. There are key differences. 1. When you have to worry about what you think, what you say, and what you do; it has a toll on collaboration and creativity, 2. There's a different perception of failure. It's not as well tolerated as it is in the US, which limits experimentation and creativity, and 3. the most important factor: When the group, specifically your family, is more important than the individual; again there's a toll on creativity. ie. why pursue a crazy dream instead of upholding your duty and responsibility to take care of your parents? > yet how many have the time for rebellion in between a six-figure job and massive housing cost? Even in ideal conditions there's never that many, just enough; which makes it even worse when the conditions aren't ideal. Why sail a ship to uncharted waters when you can be comfy at home? Can one even think about sailing when you don't have the imagination for the wonderful places you will go? Really the only hope for innovation that places like China and Singapore have is with their immigration programs ie. Singapore actively encourages it. The only other things I can think of is how well policies are enforced and if the number of people who can circumvent the Great Firewall keeps steadily rising. Places where "the mountains are high and emperor is far away" may be able to produce something awesome one day if the authorities don't immediately interfere with things