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I think the popularity of Gmail is overestimated by a lot of techies. Campaign Monitor posted user stats for over 300 million people last summer: http://www.cam

by nhebb 17y ago

I think the popularity of Gmail is overestimated by a lot of techies. Campaign Monitor posted user stats for over 300 million people last summer: http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/post/2839/email-client-popularity-june-2009/ http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/post/2839/email-client-p... Gmail came in at only 5.5%.

jonknee 17y ago
That's clients, not providers. I use Gmail and have for years, but I don't have an @gmail.com address that I use or access my mail from the web interface. My mail client is typically Mail.app or the Mail iPhone app. They are tracking these based on loaded images, which means Gmail users by default aren't counted. Some versions of Outlook (at least 2000) autoload images. Lots of mobile devices don't load images, which makes BlackBerry users undercounted. Not to mention sample bias--I also don't sign up for email newsletters. tl;dr those stats are a hot steaming pile
- nailer 17y ago
  You probably don't use a lot of MS products. Outlook 2000 is 4 (maybe 5) versions old. At least 2010, 2007 and 2003 don't load images by default, I wouldn't be surprised if Outlook XP didn't either. More to the point: no large organization is using Outlook 2000 anymore. It's unsupported and you can get 2010, 2007, 2003 or even XP on your current license agreement.
  - jonknee 17y ago
    ... And yet "Outlook 2000, 2003, Express" make up 32% of all email clients found in their study. My point isn't that these are in high use, but that they are vastly over counted (and even then meaningless to try and find providers as there are plenty of people using Gmail inside of Outlook).
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    - nailer 17y ago
      Aye, lumping in 2003 (which is current -1, ie, still supported by MS and most corporate customers) with 2000 and Express (which aren't supported) and weirdly omitting XP is odd.
tbrooks 17y ago
I think the data is skewed; most email marketing is used for B2B, rather than B2C. And many people have more than one email address and in a corporate environment, it shouldn't be surprising Gmail falls below 10%.

by nhebb 17y ago

jonknee 17y ago

That's clients, not providers. I use Gmail and have for years, but I don't have an @gmail.com address that I use or access my mail from the web interface. My mail client is typically Mail.app or the Mail iPhone app. They are tracking these based on loaded images, which means Gmail users by default aren't counted. Some versions of Outlook (at least 2000) autoload images. Lots of mobile devices don't load images, which makes BlackBerry users undercounted. Not to mention sample bias--I also don't sign up for email newsletters. tl;dr those stats are a hot steaming pile

nailer 17y ago
You probably don't use a lot of MS products. Outlook 2000 is 4 (maybe 5) versions old. At least 2010, 2007 and 2003 don't load images by default, I wouldn't be surprised if Outlook XP didn't either. More to the point: no large organization is using Outlook 2000 anymore. It's unsupported and you can get 2010, 2007, 2003 or even XP on your current license agreement.
- jonknee 17y ago
  ... And yet "Outlook 2000, 2003, Express" make up 32% of all email clients found in their study. My point isn't that these are in high use, but that they are vastly over counted (and even then meaningless to try and find providers as there are plenty of people using Gmail inside of Outlook).
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  - nailer 17y ago
    Aye, lumping in 2003 (which is current -1, ie, still supported by MS and most corporate customers) with 2000 and Express (which aren't supported) and weirdly omitting XP is odd.

tbrooks 17y ago

I think the data is skewed; most email marketing is used for B2B, rather than B2C. And many people have more than one email address and in a corporate environment, it shouldn't be surprising Gmail falls below 10%.