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Chinese have not innovated yet in anything in the present day. The examples given are just taking individual parts, and copying them all in one system. The mai
by pipio21 10y ago
Chinese have not innovated yet in anything in the present day. The examples given are just taking individual parts, and copying them all in one system.
The main difference is that in China there are not software and business patents. There are patents but in practice you can do whatever you wish. Also the Government can and actually does whatever pleases them. Someone knocks your door and tells you: We have decided you have to teach those guys what you do so they can do the same you do.
It is not innovation, but forced collaboration. Almost any technology is bought from outside, they will offer 10, 20 times(or whatever necessary) more salary(than what they actually earn) to key workers outside China with tech experience in order to go China and train Chinese replicating products in China. Once in China they will teach other companies to replicate the technology. This process is totally natural and periodic in Middle Land.
It has nothing to do with innovation. In fact the System makes it really hard to really innovate in China: Only traditional products like Silk, Porcelain and tea are protected from counterfeits. The rights of the individual is always less than the collective. The education teaches you submission and Confucian values, not risk taking and disruption.
Never forget that disruption and innovation is synonymous with change, and the first thing they will want to change is their Government.
Their system have worked fine for them until now, coming from total poverty(most people in China actually remembers the famine that killed millions, you see people wasting food as a symbol that they are "rich" enough to waste it),the advances have been impressive, but is not a model for developed countries.
- oneloop 10y ago> Chinese have not innovated yet in anything in the present day. Really? Because it seems to me that Facebook Messenger is now copying WeChat.
- anonyfox 10y agoI wouldn't call any messenger "innovative" as of today.
- wepple 10y agoI was really impressed by WeChat while living in China. Quite a few times I thought "hmm, I wish we had that back home" To counter the argument that it's not true innovation, just a re-combining of existing ideas... what other type of innovation is there?
- Chris2048 10y agoChina could learn a lot from FB about social surveillance..
- vthallam 10y ago> The education teaches you submission and Confucian values, not risk taking and disruption It's not the education alone that makes people risk averse, but the culture in general in Chinese and South Asians. It's changing for good though. Also, enough of bashing their government. A good democracy would have been great, but as you said it's working for them and that's what all matters. There are many psuedo democracies across the world where people still live in poverty.
- eva1984 10y agoThe state-of-art deep learning model, RestNets, is invented by local Chinese team. China is apparently still in catching-up mode. However, I won't go too far to say Chinese people cannot innovate at all, which we all know is not true.
- Nokinside 10y ago> The education teaches you submission and Confucian values, not risk taking and disruption. That is extremely stereotypical thinking. This is like saying that American education teaches you to be obedient consumer who thinks he is precious snowflake. It's different culture and innovation is takes different forms.
- mikeash 10y agoIs it that China hasn't innovated in anything recently, or is it merely that you are not aware of it? There certainly is a lot of copying. Most Americans feel ashamed to just rip off someone else's idea and run with it, but that sentiment doesn't exist in China. The result is a lot of shameless copycats, which is often interpreted as a lack of innovation. But not all Chinese ventures are copycats, and the copycats can end up innovating too.