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Not really, I also don't get what's the big deal about forcing you to upgrade to Win10. It seems that some people just cannot be satisfied no matter what they d

Not really, I also don't get what's the big deal about forcing you to upgrade to Win10. It seems that some people just cannot be satisfied no matter what they do. WinXP lockdown = bad, automatic (and free) upgrades = bad. Than what is good? I use both Windows and Mac. I have no problem with both of them. Also, C# and VS rocks.

Artlav 10y ago
The big deal is that it does not ask whether you want to upgrade or not. It just did, whenever it damn pleases, regardless of whether you have work to do or whether your computer/work environment can handle it. That's the trust-killing dick move, not the Win 10 itself.
Piskvorrr 10y ago
If it was asking and respecting the response, my response would be "ok, whatever." If it asks "do you want the X?" and then says "nevermind, you WANT THE X, and I'll give it to you NOW!!!", there's a tiny little problem with consent; spotting it is left as an exercise for the reader. I don't feel like repeating why this became an actual, real-world problem, so here's a link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12115470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12115470
ionised 10y ago
It's simple. Stop taking control away from users.
AnimalMuppet 10y ago
> Than what is good? Letting me decide what I want to do with my computer. "Force" is exactly what's wrong. It's my computer, not Microsoft's. I don't understand how anyone can say that forcing a customer to do what you want is OK.
yulaow 10y ago
The big deal is w10 breaks my laptop (dell l502x) with not working video drivers and not working (At all) touchpad drivers. Even if I install those of win8 they do not work as expected. Also one of their cumulative update keeps failing to install without telling me why (and then at every restart I had to wait 5 minutes for "we are installing updates" -> "we cannot install the update" -> reboot -> "we are reverting the changes" -> reboot ... and then windows would try again to download it and repeat. I had to block that update, block the automatic download and set my connection as "metered" to avoid all this shit. Online there are various posts in ms forums about that update and the only answer is "we are working on it, we think we know the problem, thread close." since Jan 2016. Long story short: do not force-update a system if you are NOT DAMN SURE it works as expected, or at least decently. It works all flawlessly with win8, win8.1 and win7. And basically any linux distro I used in the last 5 years.

Artlav 10y ago

The big deal is that it does not ask whether you want to upgrade or not. It just did, whenever it damn pleases, regardless of whether you have work to do or whether your computer/work environment can handle it. That's the trust-killing dick move, not the Win 10 itself.

Piskvorrr 10y ago

If it was asking and respecting the response, my response would be "ok, whatever." If it asks "do you want the X?" and then says "nevermind, you WANT THE X, and I'll give it to you NOW!!!", there's a tiny little problem with consent; spotting it is left as an exercise for the reader. I don't feel like repeating why this became an actual, real-world problem, so here's a link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12115470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12115470

ionised 10y ago

It's simple. Stop taking control away from users.

AnimalMuppet 10y ago

> Than what is good? Letting me decide what I want to do with my computer. "Force" is exactly what's wrong. It's my computer, not Microsoft's. I don't understand how anyone can say that forcing a customer to do what you want is OK.

yulaow 10y ago

The big deal is w10 breaks my laptop (dell l502x) with not working video drivers and not working (At all) touchpad drivers. Even if I install those of win8 they do not work as expected. Also one of their cumulative update keeps failing to install without telling me why (and then at every restart I had to wait 5 minutes for "we are installing updates" -> "we cannot install the update" -> reboot -> "we are reverting the changes" -> reboot ... and then windows would try again to download it and repeat. I had to block that update, block the automatic download and set my connection as "metered" to avoid all this shit. Online there are various posts in ms forums about that update and the only answer is "we are working on it, we think we know the problem, thread close." since Jan 2016. Long story short: do not force-update a system if you are NOT DAMN SURE it works as expected, or at least decently. It works all flawlessly with win8, win8.1 and win7. And basically any linux distro I used in the last 5 years.