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> If Tesla wants to be better than a Maserati or Jaguar, they need to observe how much nicer the interiors of those cars are. Indeed. I was shocked when I firs

by creshal 10y ago

> If Tesla wants to be better than a Maserati or Jaguar, they need to observe how much nicer the interiors of those cars are. Indeed. I was shocked when I first hitched a ride in a Model S – the interior is more spartan and cramped than that of a 90s Japanese keicar (an impressive feat, in a sense) apart from the entertainment system, which had an uglier, clunkier UI than what any web developer could have drawn you up in a week. The sales rep's "oh don't worry about battery replacement cycles, nobody keeps a car for longer than five years anyway" statement was only the final nail in the coffin.

dexterdog 10y ago
That's his sales market. Tesla wants fanboy buyers who will be upgrading within five years and that's not a bad thing. They are such a small player that they can do this. I used to lease SUVs on 2-year lease. They had massive incentives and very high residuals because the manufacturers realize they can sell you 5 cars every decade if you are loyal. I did it because the savings were awesome, but I eventually stopped because I got sick of shopping for a new car every two years.
- kartD 10y ago
  Doesn't seem eco-friendly or world changing but more consumerist to me, can the batteries be recycled then? Note: I'd still like to believe in Tesla's world improving ambitions
- HeyLaughingBoy 10y ago
  I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it cost less to lease 5 cars over a 10-year period than to buy one and hold it?
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    Not at all, but it was incredibly affordable considering that in 10 years I never had a car older than 2 years. There is zero maintenance other than a few oil changes. Like I said, the residuals were usually so high that the buy-out was not realistic. That kept the lease rate very low and made it unthinkable to keep it at the end.
- creshal 10y ago
  > Tesla wants fanboy buyers who will be upgrading within five years and that's not a bad thing. They are such a small player that they can do this. I mean, sure, but you have to be awfully fanatical to put up with just how uncomfortable the cars are right now.

by creshal 10y ago

dexterdog 10y ago

That's his sales market. Tesla wants fanboy buyers who will be upgrading within five years and that's not a bad thing. They are such a small player that they can do this. I used to lease SUVs on 2-year lease. They had massive incentives and very high residuals because the manufacturers realize they can sell you 5 cars every decade if you are loyal. I did it because the savings were awesome, but I eventually stopped because I got sick of shopping for a new car every two years.

kartD 10y ago
Doesn't seem eco-friendly or world changing but more consumerist to me, can the batteries be recycled then? Note: I'd still like to believe in Tesla's world improving ambitions
HeyLaughingBoy 10y ago
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it cost less to lease 5 cars over a 10-year period than to buy one and hold it?
- dexterdog 10y ago
  Not at all, but it was incredibly affordable considering that in 10 years I never had a car older than 2 years. There is zero maintenance other than a few oil changes. Like I said, the residuals were usually so high that the buy-out was not realistic. That kept the lease rate very low and made it unthinkable to keep it at the end.
creshal 10y ago
> Tesla wants fanboy buyers who will be upgrading within five years and that's not a bad thing. They are such a small player that they can do this. I mean, sure, but you have to be awfully fanatical to put up with just how uncomfortable the cars are right now.