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Vermont does already have the largest proportion of population of sovereign citizens in the nation. He may have picked it for that reason.
by dwaxe 10y ago
Vermont does already have the largest proportion of population of sovereign citizens in the nation. He may have picked it for that reason.
- JumpCrisscross 10y agoWhat's a "sovereign citizen"?
- disillusioned 10y agoShorthand for lunatic who believes that rule of law doesn't apply to them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
- pythia__ 10y agoYour characterization might suggest that they hold too to little faith in rule of law, but the opposite is true. What true-believer "sovereign citizens" do not recognize is that there is no rule of law in relations between sovereign entities, only deterrence. Having a Snow Crash-style personal nuke is a lowball estimate of where the barrier to entry lies.
- jsonne 10y agoFringe libertarians that believe that large swaths of the constitution, and thus many modern laws, don't apply to them. A common calling card is seeing a car with a sign that says "not for hire" as they make a distinction between driving "commercial activity" and "traveling" non-commercial. Many claim the latter doesn't require a drivers license. Youtube is littered with videos of them getting arrested in often violent confrontations with police officers as they refuse to comply with simple orders.
- dzmien 10y agoTheir motto: "Am I being detained?!"
- Shivetya 10y agoplease don't associate them with libertarians who don't condone violence let alone deception and theft.
- aidenn0 10y agoThere are plenty of libertarians who support overthrowing the state's monopoly on use of force with violence. Of course there are plenty that don't as well.
- fizgig 10y agoWell, it is the only US state (I think) that requires no permits for concealed gun carry. So they do strive to reduce the trampling of people's rights. Now, if they legalized pot (or drugs in general), prostitution, and gambling, it would be paradise for anyone who believes that adults should be able to live like adults without a meddling nanny state.
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoAlaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming
- fizgig 10y agoWow, I didn't realize there were that many. Alaska makes total sense, given that bears and moose roam populated areas. I'm surprised by the others.
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoAll are characterized by free-roaming predators and very low population density. Seems unsurprising.
- fizgig 10y agoThe same could be said for Utah, Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, Montana, and New Mexico. Given that Wyoming has the lowest population density (of the 48 contiguous states, anyway), I sorta understand that one. But given that a big chunk of the Arizona population is retirees, I'm surprised they haven't changed the carry laws yet. There's no rhyme or reason or consistency to many US states' laws. I find it a bit bothersome.
- dboreham 10y agoBecause a bear would be able to see a gun if it were not concealed? (I live in Montana and have never heard anyone talk about concealed carry in the context of animals).