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You are comparing premium tesla sedans with ford and Honda cars, of course premium car will take longer to build. Porsche for example produced 189,000 cars [1]

by usaphp 10y ago

You are comparing premium tesla sedans with ford and Honda cars, of course premium car will take longer to build. Porsche for example produced 189,000 cars [1] in 2014 with 19,000 employees. And the average price of Porsche car is also lower than Tesla's. [1] - http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=897 http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=897

jpatokal 10y ago
Sure, but that's still ~3x more per employee than Tesla.
- durkie 10y ago
  but tesla's production rate is increasing. the end of q2 saw rates of over 2k cars/week, which would be on target for >100k/year, over twice 2015's rate.
  - Robelius 10y ago
    Which is still not the 500000 cars/year they need.
    - maratd 10y ago
      What the? I don't think they ever guided to that number for 2016. That's ridiculous. They're right where they should be and on target.
      - lazyjones 10y ago
        I believe he's referring to the large number of Model 3 preorders, which Tesla probably wants to fulfill in reasonable time.
Joof 10y ago
Calling it a logical fallacy that a premium car takes longer to build because it is premium.
- gozur88 10y ago
  Oh? Don't you think buyers of premium cars expect more in the way of difficult-to-manufacture details?
  - Joof 10y ago
    I do. It just doesn't mean it's true or necessarily a requirement. Nor does it mean the car is better. A better locksmith takes less time to open a door.
    - sp527 10y ago
      Did you just utilize an analogy concerning destruction to make a point about production?
      - a13n 10y ago
        Did you just use the word utilize to make your argument sound more coherent?
        sp527 10y ago
        I utilize comment sections to keep my writing and argumentative faculties sharp. This is not how I'd normally communicate. I don't care about karma.
        a13n 10y ago
        http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/use-versus-utilize?page=1 http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/use-versu...
      - 10y ago

by usaphp 10y ago

jpatokal 10y ago

Sure, but that's still ~3x more per employee than Tesla.

durkie 10y ago
but tesla's production rate is increasing. the end of q2 saw rates of over 2k cars/week, which would be on target for >100k/year, over twice 2015's rate.
- Robelius 10y ago
  Which is still not the 500000 cars/year they need.
  - maratd 10y ago
    What the? I don't think they ever guided to that number for 2016. That's ridiculous. They're right where they should be and on target.
    - lazyjones 10y ago
      I believe he's referring to the large number of Model 3 preorders, which Tesla probably wants to fulfill in reasonable time.

Joof 10y ago

Calling it a logical fallacy that a premium car takes longer to build because it is premium.

gozur88 10y ago
Oh? Don't you think buyers of premium cars expect more in the way of difficult-to-manufacture details?
- Joof 10y ago
  I do. It just doesn't mean it's true or necessarily a requirement. Nor does it mean the car is better. A better locksmith takes less time to open a door.
  - sp527 10y ago
    Did you just utilize an analogy concerning destruction to make a point about production?
    - a13n 10y ago
      Did you just use the word utilize to make your argument sound more coherent?
      - sp527 10y ago
        I utilize comment sections to keep my writing and argumentative faculties sharp. This is not how I'd normally communicate. I don't care about karma.
        a13n 10y ago
        http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/use-versus-utilize?page=1 http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/use-versu...
    - 10y ago