So I'm from Winnipeg. Not exactly a big city, and a very very sprawling one at that. There's maybe 15 or 20 high rise buildings downtown and the tallest one is

So I'm from Winnipeg. Not exactly a big city, and a very very sprawling one at that. There's maybe 15 or 20 high rise buildings downtown and the tallest one is (iirc) 32 storeys. I live in SF now. I consider this a 'large metro area'. Last year I spent a week in Vancouver and my mind was blown. There were condo towers _everywhere_ downtown. Meanwhile, the city population of Vancouver is SMALLER than Winnipeg, and the metro area hosts half the population of SF over a 5x larger land area (according to wikipedia). Yet there's condo towers all over the place there, and relatively few here. WTF. That's a kind of result that you only get with 40+ years of anti-growth politics