> If Apple is banning apps because the developers are rude to them then that right there is a problem worth highlighting. All else equal if someone submitted a

> If Apple is banning apps because the developers are rude to them then that right there is a problem worth highlighting. All else equal if someone submitted a program to a platform I ran then created a "how long since we submitted the app...." counter I would probably click the "go away, jerk" button, to be perfectly honest ;) There's no need to fawn, certainly. But being grown up is advisable IMO. > I would suggest it is already a confrontation, the fact that almost all other developers have cowed before Apple (because they have no leverage and will therefore lose, possibly for utterly random reasons) and Opera has chosen not to, doesn't change the fundamental nature of things. Entirely irrelevant. Opera are just blowing smoke in a sense; Apple are approving apps much faster now, Apple are approving browser apps. There is no prior art that would suggest they are likely to not approve Opera mini. I dont see how a counter is leverage in this - if Apple want to drop them then they'll drop them. As already pointed out whatever they do there will be whinging - so it doesn't matter too much to them either way. I dont think the outcome of this will fundamentally alter anything about the app store or Apple's process. And I expect Opera mini will be approved...... This is a PR stunt to Opera. Nothing more.