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Agreed, labels suck, though I have been called a bro-grammer and for some reason it doesn't bother me. Maybe because its the antithesis of nerd.

danbolt 10y ago
That's interesting. I feel like brogrammer would bug me a lot more than nerd. It could just be preferences though.
- AnimalMuppet 10y ago
  Well, back in the day, "nerd" meant "social misfit". Which a lot of us were (me included), because we were too busy trying to be smart to be worried about learning how to play the social game. (Paul Graham wrote an essay about this, "Why Nerds are Unpopular".) But in the real world, it turns out that social skills also matter, and I should have realized it earlier. But these days, "nerd" means more "socially awkward but really smart", which is neutral to positive from our perspective. "Brogrammer", on the other hand, to me at least means "male who thinks he's really smart (even if he isn't) and therefore that he can be an offensive jerk to others, especially females". It would bug me a lot if someone thought that was true of me.
  - gkilmain 10y ago
    Its unfortunately that is your interpretation of the word because your definition is inflammatory
    - AnimalMuppet 10y ago
      By "word", I presume you mean "brogrammer". Do you have a less inflammatory definition? (I would claim that my definition is true to the current connotation of the word, even if not the current denotation.)
      - iak8god 10y ago
        I've never seen/heard a non-derogatory use of "brogrammer" -- maybe gkilmain will enlighten us with some use I'm not aware of (has it already been reclaimed by brogrammers making in-group use of the term?), but the connotations are overwhelmingly negative: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brogrammer http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brogrammer
      - gkilmain 10y ago
        Yes. Remove everything after the word smart and add "(like most people in the programming profession)"
        khedoros 10y ago
        That doesn't capture what I think of when someone says "brogrammer". At the very least, I think it also denotes a strong sense of machismo, with a connotation of disrespect for others and boorishness. It's not a positive term, generally speaking.
      - johan_larson 10y ago
        I would define brogrammer as a programmer who acts like a (stereotypical) frat-boy. You know, living to party, acting up in boorish ways.
mordocai 10y ago
I'm am perfectly happy to be called nerd/geek but call me a bro-grammer and you will definitely piss me off. (and I'll hate myself a little for inspiring someone to call me a bro-grammer)
rdrey 10y ago
I would hate being called a bro-grammer, because for me it implies that other geeks aren't taking you seriously.
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danbolt 10y ago

That's interesting. I feel like brogrammer would bug me a lot more than nerd. It could just be preferences though.

AnimalMuppet 10y ago
Well, back in the day, "nerd" meant "social misfit". Which a lot of us were (me included), because we were too busy trying to be smart to be worried about learning how to play the social game. (Paul Graham wrote an essay about this, "Why Nerds are Unpopular".) But in the real world, it turns out that social skills also matter, and I should have realized it earlier. But these days, "nerd" means more "socially awkward but really smart", which is neutral to positive from our perspective. "Brogrammer", on the other hand, to me at least means "male who thinks he's really smart (even if he isn't) and therefore that he can be an offensive jerk to others, especially females". It would bug me a lot if someone thought that was true of me.
- gkilmain 10y ago
  Its unfortunately that is your interpretation of the word because your definition is inflammatory
  - AnimalMuppet 10y ago
    By "word", I presume you mean "brogrammer". Do you have a less inflammatory definition? (I would claim that my definition is true to the current connotation of the word, even if not the current denotation.)
    - iak8god 10y ago
      I've never seen/heard a non-derogatory use of "brogrammer" -- maybe gkilmain will enlighten us with some use I'm not aware of (has it already been reclaimed by brogrammers making in-group use of the term?), but the connotations are overwhelmingly negative: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brogrammer http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brogrammer
    - gkilmain 10y ago
      Yes. Remove everything after the word smart and add "(like most people in the programming profession)"
      - khedoros 10y ago
        That doesn't capture what I think of when someone says "brogrammer". At the very least, I think it also denotes a strong sense of machismo, with a connotation of disrespect for others and boorishness. It's not a positive term, generally speaking.
    - johan_larson 10y ago
      I would define brogrammer as a programmer who acts like a (stereotypical) frat-boy. You know, living to party, acting up in boorish ways.

mordocai 10y ago

I'm am perfectly happy to be called nerd/geek but call me a bro-grammer and you will definitely piss me off. (and I'll hate myself a little for inspiring someone to call me a bro-grammer)

rdrey 10y ago

I would hate being called a bro-grammer, because for me it implies that other geeks aren't taking you seriously.

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