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The only use for Flash I have these days is for streaming sites like Twitch. Once that's tackled, I'll be more than happy to remove the plugin. That said, it u

The only use for Flash I have these days is for streaming sites like Twitch. Once that's tackled, I'll be more than happy to remove the plugin. That said, it used to be easy to block annoying stuff by having Flash enabled on demand.

sp332 10y ago
Does Twitch just not work on Safari?
- deleted 10y ago
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- duskwuff 10y ago
  Twitch uses native HLS playback in Safari. This isn't available in other browsers (yet).
  - cpeterso 10y ago
    Edge has also native support for HLS and MPEG DASH: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/01/29/simplified-adaptive-video-streaming-announcing-support-for-hls-and-dash-in-windows-10/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/01/29/simplified-ad...
  - sp332 10y ago
    Looks like there are patent issues. Android supports it, so HLS works in Chrome for Android but not desktop Chrome. And Firefox might support it on mobile at some point but not on desktop. Sites can use e.g. Dailymotion's HLS.js https://github.com/dailymotion/hls.js https://github.com/dailymotion/hls.js and Firefox users could install this wrapper extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/native-hls/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/native-hls/
  - spikengineer 10y ago
    Chrome and Firefox never plan to support HLS. They only want customers to use HTML5-DASH.
    - cpeterso 10y ago
      And for websites that have existing HLS content or workflows they would like to use with desktop browsers, they should check out solutions like Dailymotion's HLS.js polyfill. It tunnels HLS streams into the MSE API (used by DASH) available in Chrome, Firefox, IE/Edge, and Safari. Mozilla works closely with the HLS.js developers to help debug compatibility issues and regressions in Firefox or HLS.js. http://engineering.dailymotion.com/introducing-hls-js/ http://engineering.dailymotion.com/introducing-hls-js/
- SG- 10y ago
  Kind of the opposite, Safari was the only browser that supported Twitch's HLS/HTML5 streaming until Edge came along.
kyrra 10y ago
Twitch has their HTML5 player in beta right now: https://blog.twitch.tv/html5-player-turbo-beta-starts-today-135d1b7baa65#.tjecrw2rn https://blog.twitch.tv/html5-player-turbo-beta-starts-today-...
stronglikedan 10y ago
A lot of enterprisey applications have tools developed in Flash/Flex. Mostly internal and B2B tools, but tools nonetheless. It's not likely that they will be replaced anytime soon, because no one is going to authorize the budget for replacing something that still works, so Flash will be around in one form or another for a long while.

sp332 10y ago

Does Twitch just not work on Safari?

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duskwuff 10y ago
Twitch uses native HLS playback in Safari. This isn't available in other browsers (yet).
- cpeterso 10y ago
  Edge has also native support for HLS and MPEG DASH: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/01/29/simplified-adaptive-video-streaming-announcing-support-for-hls-and-dash-in-windows-10/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/01/29/simplified-ad...
- sp332 10y ago
  Looks like there are patent issues. Android supports it, so HLS works in Chrome for Android but not desktop Chrome. And Firefox might support it on mobile at some point but not on desktop. Sites can use e.g. Dailymotion's HLS.js https://github.com/dailymotion/hls.js https://github.com/dailymotion/hls.js and Firefox users could install this wrapper extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/native-hls/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/native-hls/
- spikengineer 10y ago
  Chrome and Firefox never plan to support HLS. They only want customers to use HTML5-DASH.
  - cpeterso 10y ago
    And for websites that have existing HLS content or workflows they would like to use with desktop browsers, they should check out solutions like Dailymotion's HLS.js polyfill. It tunnels HLS streams into the MSE API (used by DASH) available in Chrome, Firefox, IE/Edge, and Safari. Mozilla works closely with the HLS.js developers to help debug compatibility issues and regressions in Firefox or HLS.js. http://engineering.dailymotion.com/introducing-hls-js/ http://engineering.dailymotion.com/introducing-hls-js/
SG- 10y ago
Kind of the opposite, Safari was the only browser that supported Twitch's HLS/HTML5 streaming until Edge came along.

kyrra 10y ago

Twitch has their HTML5 player in beta right now: https://blog.twitch.tv/html5-player-turbo-beta-starts-today-135d1b7baa65#.tjecrw2rn https://blog.twitch.tv/html5-player-turbo-beta-starts-today-...

stronglikedan 10y ago

A lot of enterprisey applications have tools developed in Flash/Flex. Mostly internal and B2B tools, but tools nonetheless. It's not likely that they will be replaced anytime soon, because no one is going to authorize the budget for replacing something that still works, so Flash will be around in one form or another for a long while.