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Well, I don't think it's the goal of a CEO of a social organization to give a talk on tech issues. Their focus is on social issues, so I don't see this as a goo

Well, I don't think it's the goal of a CEO of a social organization to give a talk on tech issues. Their focus is on social issues, so I don't see this as a good example.

andkon 10y ago
To say nothing of the fact that it doesn't seem coherent to distinguish between "tech issues" and "social issues," this literally only makes sense if you think that the lack of diverse folks in tech isn't a social issue. That's deeply, deeply wrong. Of course it is a social issue.
- jonnybgood 10y ago
  I didn't say anything contrary to that.
drcoopster 10y ago
Perhaps then she shouldn't have been giving a talk at a tech conference.
- jonnybgood 10y ago
  That falls under the purview of the organizers.
  - ajkjk 10y ago
    But it's well within the public's right to criticize them for doing a bad job at.. 'purviewing'.
    - popmystack 10y ago
      No one is saying it's not. Stick with the subject instead of addressing nothing no one has stated.
    - jonnybgood 10y ago
      I said nothing contrary to that. The choice of who speaks at a tech conference is at the discretion of the organizers. So, criticize the organizers, not the speaker.
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Broken_Hippo 10y ago
What would you expect a male CEO of a social organization to talk about at a tech conference? I suspect that while social issues might come up, the expected talk would be the male CEO focusing the talk on running his organization and the tech that is involved. Perhaps the importance of competent tech or something or another. The actual social issues would merely be highlights, and he'd probably skip talking about the male experience in tech. I'd understand if she were talking about tools they were using to get young women and girls interested in the tech field, as I'd expect this sort of thing with someone involved with Boy Scouts - but this doesn't seem to be the case.
- busterarm 10y ago
  I wouldn't expect the male CEO of a social organization to be giving a talk at a tech conference. I would expect the CTO/CIO to be giving a talk at a tech conference.
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Mz 10y ago
Perhaps it is perfectly fine for people to comment on the fact that women whining about this stuff is the worst possible approach to solving it. That the author's desire to be brought in to actually talk about tech is the correct position if you want to make real headway and that her insta-delete policy is brilliant. One of the problems with being a woman in a tech environment is that there is already too much focus on the fact that you are a woman. Like that is something bizarre. Putting additional focus on it and allowing you to only talk about that and not about your actual professional expertise is all kinds of problematic.

Well, I don't think it's the goal of a CEO of a social organization to give a talk on tech issues. Their focus is on social issues, so I don't see this as a good example.

andkon 10y ago

To say nothing of the fact that it doesn't seem coherent to distinguish between "tech issues" and "social issues," this literally only makes sense if you think that the lack of diverse folks in tech isn't a social issue. That's deeply, deeply wrong. Of course it is a social issue.

jonnybgood 10y ago
I didn't say anything contrary to that.

drcoopster 10y ago

Perhaps then she shouldn't have been giving a talk at a tech conference.

jonnybgood 10y ago
That falls under the purview of the organizers.
- ajkjk 10y ago
  But it's well within the public's right to criticize them for doing a bad job at.. 'purviewing'.
  - popmystack 10y ago
    No one is saying it's not. Stick with the subject instead of addressing nothing no one has stated.
  - jonnybgood 10y ago
    I said nothing contrary to that. The choice of who speaks at a tech conference is at the discretion of the organizers. So, criticize the organizers, not the speaker.
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Broken_Hippo 10y ago

What would you expect a male CEO of a social organization to talk about at a tech conference? I suspect that while social issues might come up, the expected talk would be the male CEO focusing the talk on running his organization and the tech that is involved. Perhaps the importance of competent tech or something or another. The actual social issues would merely be highlights, and he'd probably skip talking about the male experience in tech. I'd understand if she were talking about tools they were using to get young women and girls interested in the tech field, as I'd expect this sort of thing with someone involved with Boy Scouts - but this doesn't seem to be the case.

busterarm 10y ago
I wouldn't expect the male CEO of a social organization to be giving a talk at a tech conference. I would expect the CTO/CIO to be giving a talk at a tech conference.
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Mz 10y ago

Perhaps it is perfectly fine for people to comment on the fact that women whining about this stuff is the worst possible approach to solving it. That the author's desire to be brought in to actually talk about tech is the correct position if you want to make real headway and that her insta-delete policy is brilliant. One of the problems with being a woman in a tech environment is that there is already too much focus on the fact that you are a woman. Like that is something bizarre. Putting additional focus on it and allowing you to only talk about that and not about your actual professional expertise is all kinds of problematic.