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As he should. Democrats and big business are leading us down an orwellian rabbit hole (with the help of two Bush presidencies), but Rebulicans and Libertarians

As he should. Democrats and big business are leading us down an orwellian rabbit hole (with the help of two Bush presidencies), but Rebulicans and Libertarians are still the two parties of principle and debate. All the Democrats care about is power. Witness the shadiness with which Democrats forced Hillary as the nominee and then let her get off when she obviously broke the law and had been lying about it for a year. When a group wants power that bad it's my job as an American citizen to keep them out of power.

yedava 10y ago
Funny to see you complain about power and then support Trump, who by any reasonable measure could be said to be in the race solely for power, and not for any principled stance.
- elgabogringo 10y ago
  #1 - nobody in the race is more power hungry than the Clintons. #2 - The republican party itself is at least interested in holding trump accountable. The same can't be said for democrats and Hillary.
mikeash 10y ago
The Republicans just officially nominated a twice-divorced guy with no consistent positions on anything and no political experience, who has threatened to jail women who get abortions and blatantly violate the constitution by imposing religious tests on immigrants, on the basis that he's the guy to advance their platform of family values and freedom. And I'm supposed to believe that they're a party of principle?
- elgabogringo 10y ago
  Hmm... I'm not granting anything in your post because there are a number o inaccuracies... But... The level of debate that existed during the primaries, that continues to exist inside the party, the discussion of supporting a 3rd party candidate (in this case libertarian) is all centered around principles and positions. Meanwhile, the complete lack of candidates, let alone debate among the democrats during the primary, the fait accompli of nominating Hillary, the complete disinterest in holding her accountable for breaking the law and putting national security at risk.... This is all centered around power.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    What inaccuracies? I can accept that "no consistent positions on anything" is probably going to be debated, but the rest seems pretty much factual as far as I know. If the result was this guy, does it even matter if the primary debates were centered around principles? I'm not commenting on the Democrats here, so the nature of their process is not really relevant. I am not arguing for them in any way, and will cast my vote in that direction only with great reluctance.

yedava 10y ago

Funny to see you complain about power and then support Trump, who by any reasonable measure could be said to be in the race solely for power, and not for any principled stance.

elgabogringo 10y ago
#1 - nobody in the race is more power hungry than the Clintons. #2 - The republican party itself is at least interested in holding trump accountable. The same can't be said for democrats and Hillary.

mikeash 10y ago

The Republicans just officially nominated a twice-divorced guy with no consistent positions on anything and no political experience, who has threatened to jail women who get abortions and blatantly violate the constitution by imposing religious tests on immigrants, on the basis that he's the guy to advance their platform of family values and freedom. And I'm supposed to believe that they're a party of principle?

elgabogringo 10y ago
Hmm... I'm not granting anything in your post because there are a number o inaccuracies... But... The level of debate that existed during the primaries, that continues to exist inside the party, the discussion of supporting a 3rd party candidate (in this case libertarian) is all centered around principles and positions. Meanwhile, the complete lack of candidates, let alone debate among the democrats during the primary, the fait accompli of nominating Hillary, the complete disinterest in holding her accountable for breaking the law and putting national security at risk.... This is all centered around power.
- mikeash 10y ago
  What inaccuracies? I can accept that "no consistent positions on anything" is probably going to be debated, but the rest seems pretty much factual as far as I know. If the result was this guy, does it even matter if the primary debates were centered around principles? I'm not commenting on the Democrats here, so the nature of their process is not really relevant. I am not arguing for them in any way, and will cast my vote in that direction only with great reluctance.