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I use a 16GB iPhone and I delete apps all the time because of lack of space. In a sense I see this as a strategic mistake by Apple, you can't have people downl

I use a 16GB iPhone and I delete apps all the time because of lack of space. In a sense I see this as a strategic mistake by Apple, you can't have people downloading and using lots of app and also sell most iPhone with only 16GB space.

coldtea 10y ago
Maybe Apple doesn't care about "people downloading and using lots of app" beyond a certain point? The App Store has never been a cash cow for them. Hardware has always bin.
shoover 10y ago
And then carriers will sell Android phones with 8GB in which the OS takes 5GB and undeletable apps use 2+GB. But it runs quickly enough in a demo and once you buy it you're stuck.
- bdcravens 10y ago
  Aren't most expandable via SD?
  - wccrawford 10y ago
    Older ones were, but the new Nexus phones aren't, and I'm pretty sure I've heard of others. I was horrified at first, but I will probably end up buying a new phone before it really becomes a problem... And I bought a huge one this time, too, so it really isn't a problem.
    - bdcravens 10y ago
      I have an S7 as my secondary (primary is 6S Plus) so I'm a casual user at best, but the SIM slot appears to hold both the SIM and a MicroSD.
  - shoover 10y ago
    Yes, which is great for photos and other data. You can move individual apps there, too, but parts of the moved apps still stay on the phone and you can't control this. My wife's phone has all movable apps except Trello moved to SD, along with all photos, Audible cache, etc., and it's running about 300MB free on the phone most of the time. When we bought it I assumed it would be fine because my low end HTC came with 2GB free space. The difference I missed was Android 4.4 is much larger. We will try replacing Facebook/Messenger with Metal as suggested elsewhere and see if that leaves more wiggle room and improves battery life and overall performance.
- deong 10y ago
  There are exactly five new phones on the first page of the AT&T site for sale right now that you can buy with less than 32 GB of memory. They are: * Apple iPhone SE * Apple iPhone 6s+ * Apple iPhone 6s * Apple iPhone 6+ * Apple iPhone 6
  - ac29 10y ago
    The "first page of the AT&T site" is a rather arbitrary criteria for finding what phones are on offer. The only Android phones there are high end ($600-700) Samsung and LG phones. Its definitely not hard to find Android phones with 8 or 16GB of storage, especially on the cheaper end. Saavy consumers can get a pretty solid Android phone for around $200, though. I'm specifically thinking of the Moto G, now on its 4th iteration, and all of them have been fairly well spec'd and reviewed for that price point.
    - deong 10y ago
      I would have gone deeper, but their site navigation wasn't working in my browser. That said, it definitely seems that in markets like the US at least, a large percentage of Android phones being sold today are late model Samsungs, LGs, etc. I'm sure you can still buy a PoS Android phone that doesn't really work properly, but it hasn't been the case that people are really buying those in masse for a few years now. Motorola does have some cheaper options, even the Moto G you mentioned starts at 16GB, and it's a $200 phone that is actually pretty good, as you pointed out. The comment I was responding to was talking about "Android phones with 8GB in which the OS takes 5GB and undeletable apps use 2+GB" that carriers were supposedly duping people into buying. That's just not the case, and hasn't been for probably five years.

coldtea 10y ago

Maybe Apple doesn't care about "people downloading and using lots of app" beyond a certain point? The App Store has never been a cash cow for them. Hardware has always bin.

shoover 10y ago

And then carriers will sell Android phones with 8GB in which the OS takes 5GB and undeletable apps use 2+GB. But it runs quickly enough in a demo and once you buy it you're stuck.

bdcravens 10y ago
Aren't most expandable via SD?
- wccrawford 10y ago
  Older ones were, but the new Nexus phones aren't, and I'm pretty sure I've heard of others. I was horrified at first, but I will probably end up buying a new phone before it really becomes a problem... And I bought a huge one this time, too, so it really isn't a problem.
  - bdcravens 10y ago
    I have an S7 as my secondary (primary is 6S Plus) so I'm a casual user at best, but the SIM slot appears to hold both the SIM and a MicroSD.
- shoover 10y ago
  Yes, which is great for photos and other data. You can move individual apps there, too, but parts of the moved apps still stay on the phone and you can't control this. My wife's phone has all movable apps except Trello moved to SD, along with all photos, Audible cache, etc., and it's running about 300MB free on the phone most of the time. When we bought it I assumed it would be fine because my low end HTC came with 2GB free space. The difference I missed was Android 4.4 is much larger. We will try replacing Facebook/Messenger with Metal as suggested elsewhere and see if that leaves more wiggle room and improves battery life and overall performance.
deong 10y ago
There are exactly five new phones on the first page of the AT&T site for sale right now that you can buy with less than 32 GB of memory. They are: * Apple iPhone SE * Apple iPhone 6s+ * Apple iPhone 6s * Apple iPhone 6+ * Apple iPhone 6
- ac29 10y ago
  The "first page of the AT&T site" is a rather arbitrary criteria for finding what phones are on offer. The only Android phones there are high end ($600-700) Samsung and LG phones. Its definitely not hard to find Android phones with 8 or 16GB of storage, especially on the cheaper end. Saavy consumers can get a pretty solid Android phone for around $200, though. I'm specifically thinking of the Moto G, now on its 4th iteration, and all of them have been fairly well spec'd and reviewed for that price point.
  - deong 10y ago
    I would have gone deeper, but their site navigation wasn't working in my browser. That said, it definitely seems that in markets like the US at least, a large percentage of Android phones being sold today are late model Samsungs, LGs, etc. I'm sure you can still buy a PoS Android phone that doesn't really work properly, but it hasn't been the case that people are really buying those in masse for a few years now. Motorola does have some cheaper options, even the Moto G you mentioned starts at 16GB, and it's a $200 phone that is actually pretty good, as you pointed out. The comment I was responding to was talking about "Android phones with 8GB in which the OS takes 5GB and undeletable apps use 2+GB" that carriers were supposedly duping people into buying. That's just not the case, and hasn't been for probably five years.