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> A pizza in a restaurant, a pizza in a supermarket and a pizza delivery are all pizzas, but they're not the same product If the product is "pizza", then of co

> A pizza in a restaurant, a pizza in a supermarket and a pizza delivery are all pizzas, but they're not the same product If the product is "pizza", then of course they are the same product. Lay out a salami pizza from a restaurant, supermarket and delivery next to each other on plates and they will (mainly) differ only in quality and price.

macintux 10y ago
Yes, if you ignore everything that makes them different, they do look the same.
- ckastner 10y ago
  OK. What differences do you see between three plates of salami pizza that is not purely a difference in the quality of their ingredients (floor, water, cheese, tomato sauce, salami, etc) and the composition of these?
  - halcyondaze 10y ago
    Restaurant pizza: - Atmosphere - Service - No effort Supermarket: - Convenience - Have to cook and serve yourself - Independent of time, have it whenever you want Delivery - Service without moving location
    - ckastner 10y ago
      None of these points matter when the three pizzas are already in front of you, on three separate plates, which is why I brought up this particular scenario twice. I think it is obvious that we (including the other participants in the thread) have vastly different points of view on this topic. To me, the "pizza" example is simply about the end result: what you shove in your mouth. To the other participants, the pizza is much more than that. For example, you mentioned "atmosphere" with restaurant pizza. To me, that has nothing to do with the pizza; the dining experience is an entirely different product itself (a service), and applies to various non-pizza dishes as well. To emphasize why I believe this, and as food for thought (no pun intended), here in Austria, virtually all pizza delivery services are operated by pizzerias. In other words, in this particular case, the restaurant pizza and the delivery pizza would be identical. The difference would lie only in the mode in which you acquire the pizza -- the service product. While I obviously still favor my point of view, I can also understand why you favor yours.
      - halcyondaze 10y ago
        Fair points!
  - ZeroGravitas 10y ago
    One of them hasn't been cooked.
  - macintux 10y ago
    The original point was that the "product" is much more than just the pizza.

macintux 10y ago

Yes, if you ignore everything that makes them different, they do look the same.

ckastner 10y ago
OK. What differences do you see between three plates of salami pizza that is not purely a difference in the quality of their ingredients (floor, water, cheese, tomato sauce, salami, etc) and the composition of these?
- halcyondaze 10y ago
  Restaurant pizza: - Atmosphere - Service - No effort Supermarket: - Convenience - Have to cook and serve yourself - Independent of time, have it whenever you want Delivery - Service without moving location
  - ckastner 10y ago
    None of these points matter when the three pizzas are already in front of you, on three separate plates, which is why I brought up this particular scenario twice. I think it is obvious that we (including the other participants in the thread) have vastly different points of view on this topic. To me, the "pizza" example is simply about the end result: what you shove in your mouth. To the other participants, the pizza is much more than that. For example, you mentioned "atmosphere" with restaurant pizza. To me, that has nothing to do with the pizza; the dining experience is an entirely different product itself (a service), and applies to various non-pizza dishes as well. To emphasize why I believe this, and as food for thought (no pun intended), here in Austria, virtually all pizza delivery services are operated by pizzerias. In other words, in this particular case, the restaurant pizza and the delivery pizza would be identical. The difference would lie only in the mode in which you acquire the pizza -- the service product. While I obviously still favor my point of view, I can also understand why you favor yours.
    - halcyondaze 10y ago
      Fair points!
- ZeroGravitas 10y ago
  One of them hasn't been cooked.
- macintux 10y ago
  The original point was that the "product" is much more than just the pizza.