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What I really want to know is what "tbray" sees as the next google. Now that he is inside he surely must have a different perspective on what could be dislodgin

by josh33 17y ago

What I really want to know is what "tbray" sees as the next google. Now that he is inside he surely must have a different perspective on what could be dislodging/game changing for the mammoth company.

davidw 17y ago
I think you are ascribing powers of omniscience to him that he, perhaps, does not have.
neilk 17y ago
No, unfortunately that's not going to happen. Instead, he's going to become incapable of seeing any future of the internet other than "more Google". This seems to happen to all their employees, with the exception of Brad Fitzpatrick.
- durin42 17y ago
  There's a good contingent internally that haven't drunk the kool-aid, Brad's just the most visible externally. It's a reasonably huge effort just to keep the hubris in check internally, and it doesn't always work out.
  - dotBen 17y ago
    "Brad's just the most visible externally" Which is the other problem... People enter Google and disappear from external sight. I don't think Google has a "don't blog" policy, maybe it is that they just see "google = internet" and decide there is no value in having a public facing side. I wonder whether this will happen to Tim
    - durin42 17y ago
      Many OSS contributors disappear because they're encountering satisfyingly challenging engineering problems as their day job for the first time. It takes a special discipline to actually _use_ 20% time at all (not because of team pressure, just from the ease with which one can focus on the large problems at Google). I've had that problem myself, and am considering putting said discipline in my own written goals.
dotBen 17y ago
I wonder why Tim has gone to Google - he doesn't seem to elaborate why he chose Google post-Sun/Oracle.
- wglb 17y ago
  In previous posts, he has indicated that google has tried to get him before, but he did not want to relocate. The offer this time was that he could work without relocating--he still gets to work from home in Vancouver.
  - smackfu 17y ago
    OTOH, that makes the parts of this post about the Google campus even sillier.

by josh33 17y ago

davidw 17y ago

I think you are ascribing powers of omniscience to him that he, perhaps, does not have.

neilk 17y ago

No, unfortunately that's not going to happen. Instead, he's going to become incapable of seeing any future of the internet other than "more Google". This seems to happen to all their employees, with the exception of Brad Fitzpatrick.

durin42 17y ago
There's a good contingent internally that haven't drunk the kool-aid, Brad's just the most visible externally. It's a reasonably huge effort just to keep the hubris in check internally, and it doesn't always work out.
- dotBen 17y ago
  "Brad's just the most visible externally" Which is the other problem... People enter Google and disappear from external sight. I don't think Google has a "don't blog" policy, maybe it is that they just see "google = internet" and decide there is no value in having a public facing side. I wonder whether this will happen to Tim
  - durin42 17y ago
    Many OSS contributors disappear because they're encountering satisfyingly challenging engineering problems as their day job for the first time. It takes a special discipline to actually _use_ 20% time at all (not because of team pressure, just from the ease with which one can focus on the large problems at Google). I've had that problem myself, and am considering putting said discipline in my own written goals.

dotBen 17y ago

I wonder why Tim has gone to Google - he doesn't seem to elaborate why he chose Google post-Sun/Oracle.

wglb 17y ago
In previous posts, he has indicated that google has tried to get him before, but he did not want to relocate. The offer this time was that he could work without relocating--he still gets to work from home in Vancouver.
- smackfu 17y ago
  OTOH, that makes the parts of this post about the Google campus even sillier.