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There is no data. WhatsApp just passes the encrypted communication from your phone to another phone and that's it. It doesn't hold it. The first couple times t
by deltaprotocol 10y ago
There is no data. WhatsApp just passes the encrypted communication from your phone to another phone and that's it. It doesn't hold it.
The first couple times that WhatsApp was blocked in Brazil, the reason was that they denied access to certain logs.
This time, they explicitly mention they want encryption to be turned off and demand WhatsApp to reply to Brazilian requests in Brazilian terms. The problem is that WhatsApp, as stated before, do not operate in Brazil as has exactly zero obligation to answer Brazilians court orders.
Now it's time for the country to discuss, as are many other places in the world, where does the right to investigate crimes by prying into someone or some groups communications begins and where does the right to privacy of the population ends.
The Supreme Court judge who suspended the block argued that it violated basic rights of the people, which is good, but already there is talk of a political project to establish what those in power all over the world want: access to communications and access to the ability to punish those who don't obey, the later in the form of an obligation for the companies involved to have an arm in Brazil.
- bernardopires 10y ago"There is no data. WhatsApp just passes the encrypted communication from your phone to another phone and that's it. It doesn't hold it." That's not true. If the user receiving the message is not online how is the message supposed to be delivered? Obviously the server holds it until the user comes online. So yes, there is data.
- Nadya 10y agoNo comment about how secure the below is, but it seems trivial to not need data on the message itself. The only data that needs to be stored by WhatsApp is `Sent` and not the message itself, which can be stored locally by the Messenger. [Messenger] <--> [Sent Succesfully?] <--> Recipient When the Recipient receives a message - they alert WhatsApp that the message has been received which can then alert the Messenger that the message has been sent. If it comes back with a failure, the Messenger will attempt to send the message again in `${Time}` until it sends. The message itself never has to hit WhatsApp's servers.