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A random, cursory look didn't yield anything particularly interesting: lots of fairly shallow emails, google groups conversations, disgruntled citizens writing

A random, cursory look didn't yield anything particularly interesting: lots of fairly shallow emails, google groups conversations, disgruntled citizens writing in all caps and a fair bit of spam. Granted, I'm also relying on Google Translate for a lot of this, so I may well be missing something obvious. According to Wikileaks, the release was hastened in light of recent events, so I presume they didn't have time to comb through the data. That said, I would assume this was released for a reason (i.e. some of the emails have some value), but I honestly can't tell what that might be.

viraptor 10y ago
> cursory look didn't yield anything particularly interesting I think that's to be expected. If it was full of easy find critical information, it would mean they filtered what's being released. This way, it's simply a dump of everything - now it's for others to dig for anything interesting.
ORioN63 10y ago
Why does Google Translate breaks newlines when translating? It makes really hard to read.
- chronolitus 10y ago
  You just made me realize, it's a harder problem than at first glance: - If you translate line by line, you lose information shared between lines (state of the current sentence, etc) "Did you stay \n up last night?" - A solution would be to remember where the newline was (here, after the word stay) translate the whole sentence, then add it back in. But after translation, maybe "stay up" transformed into another word entirely. "stay" doesn't exist anymore, Or it might have shifted to another place in the sentence. where do you put the newline? - Idioms would further exacerbate this problem. - As a result, you would need to train your translation unit (e.g. a neural net) on also intelligently carrying newlines to the translated language. This might be more work than worth the payoff. This might or might not be the reason. Could be a simple oversight, or something entirely different.
vintermann 10y ago
Without knowing Turkish and knowing salient topics related to Turkish politics, of course we are not going to find anything interesting. It's a lot of research to find the stuff that might be actually interesting and relevant. Wikileaks don't have access to any Turkish-speakers I think (at least not in the inner circle of people who might get access to unpublished submissions), so you can't assume there's something truly scandalous in there. They were released for a reason, yes, but that reason is the fairly obvious one that there was a coup attempt in Turkey right now. It has value as research material for people studying or writing about the current political situation in Turkey, even if there are no "smoking gun"-type single documents in there.

viraptor 10y ago

> cursory look didn't yield anything particularly interesting I think that's to be expected. If it was full of easy find critical information, it would mean they filtered what's being released. This way, it's simply a dump of everything - now it's for others to dig for anything interesting.

ORioN63 10y ago

Why does Google Translate breaks newlines when translating? It makes really hard to read.

chronolitus 10y ago
You just made me realize, it's a harder problem than at first glance: - If you translate line by line, you lose information shared between lines (state of the current sentence, etc) "Did you stay \n up last night?" - A solution would be to remember where the newline was (here, after the word stay) translate the whole sentence, then add it back in. But after translation, maybe "stay up" transformed into another word entirely. "stay" doesn't exist anymore, Or it might have shifted to another place in the sentence. where do you put the newline? - Idioms would further exacerbate this problem. - As a result, you would need to train your translation unit (e.g. a neural net) on also intelligently carrying newlines to the translated language. This might be more work than worth the payoff. This might or might not be the reason. Could be a simple oversight, or something entirely different.

vintermann 10y ago

Without knowing Turkish and knowing salient topics related to Turkish politics, of course we are not going to find anything interesting. It's a lot of research to find the stuff that might be actually interesting and relevant. Wikileaks don't have access to any Turkish-speakers I think (at least not in the inner circle of people who might get access to unpublished submissions), so you can't assume there's something truly scandalous in there. They were released for a reason, yes, but that reason is the fairly obvious one that there was a coup attempt in Turkey right now. It has value as research material for people studying or writing about the current political situation in Turkey, even if there are no "smoking gun"-type single documents in there.