> Dont try to make me believe that external events do not have any effect. Nobody here is trying to make you believe that. Perhaps fundamentalism in Turkey was

> Dont try to make me believe that external events do not have any effect. Nobody here is trying to make you believe that. Perhaps fundamentalism in Turkey was helped along in political power (but not popular support--it's always been strong in rural areas) but EU rejection, but "fundamentalism was going down before the EU blew it up" is a statement without support, since in most of the places where fundamentalism has grown strongest the EU has zero influence.