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Like the other thousands of people, I absolutely loved Braid. I think this comment gets my hopes up, but wow would I love to see a sequel.

StavrosK 10y ago
The problem with sequels in games this good is that the game is so much better than anything else when it is released, that a sequel can't be anything other than an incremental update, and thus feels lackluster. The same thing will happen with the Deadpool movie sequel. The first movie was innovative in that it was the first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall, have tons of R-rated jokes, etc, but you can only do that once.
- cmdrfred 10y ago
  > The first movie was innovative in that it was the first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall, have tons of R-rated jokes, etc, Check out Naked Gun kiddo.
  - nameless912 10y ago
    > The first movie that I care about to break the fourth wall, have tons of R-rated jokes, etc, What he probably meant to say. So often we forget that literally everything is an "overdone trope" at this point, unless you do it well.
    - cmdrfred 10y ago
      True. The first movie I 'care about' that fits this description is probably Austin Powers then. Watch it again if you haven't in years, you'll catch all the jokes that flew over your head as a kid.
      - SmellyGeekBoy 10y ago
        I loved it as a teenager but watched it again recently (now in my early 30s) and thought it was truly awful. Some things are better left in the past!
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
    Also Blazing Saddles.
- blakeyrat 10y ago
  > The first movie was innovative in that it was the first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall, You're either very young, or haven't watched very many movies.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    I think what he meant to say was that it was the first mainstream movie to combine breaking the fourth wall with lots of R-Rated jokes and certain other unspecified features that is, the list of features was a unit, not a list of things that Deadpool was first at individually. At least, that's the charitable interpretation that makes the claim not-laughable-on-its-face.
- nameless912 10y ago
  Counterexample: Portal 2. Same basic concept, innovated on the original in every conceivable way. Sure, I like the original better because nostalgia glasses, but I can objectively state that the sequel is a fucking excellent game.
- douche 10y ago
  > first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall What's it all about, Alfie? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_(1966_film)#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_(1966_film)#Reception
- JoshTriplett 10y ago
  > The problem with sequels in games this good is that the game is so much better than anything else when it is released, that a sequel can't be anything other than an incremental update, and thus feels lackluster. Depends on the sequel. If the sequel is just an additional collection of levels, then just provide a fun "additional levels pack" as an add-on, and/or provide a way to share community-produced levels. That doesn't have the same expectations as a sequel. If you're going to actually make a sequel, put enough effort, new mechanics, and story into it to make it a new game in its own right. For examples of sequels that put enough effort in to be a new game while still feeling like a sequel to the original, look at Portal 2, or Super Mario Bros 3 (by contrast to Lost Levels, which was fundamentally just a level pack). Numerous sequels pull this off, even of innovative indie games. But it's also possible that the new game will end up with entirely new mechanics and story to the point that it isn't a sequel, and instead becomes "a new game from the makers of ...". And that's awesome too.
spatulon 10y ago
The game felt like a pretty thorough exploration of the time-rewind mechanic, and Blow was obviously careful that each puzzle served a unique purpose. I doubt he feels like he has anything interesting to put in a Braid II that wasn't already in the first game.
- 27182818284 10y ago
  I'd even buy some extra levels with just the original Braid's gameplay. I think, though, that he could come up with some new creative power-ups and such to add to the gameplay. I keep thinking like a Mario vs Mario 3 idea. Sure it still had firepower and such, but adding the flying added a lot to the game.
captn3m0 10y ago
I don't think that is gonna happen though. He'd would want Braid to stand in its own right.

StavrosK 10y ago

The problem with sequels in games this good is that the game is so much better than anything else when it is released, that a sequel can't be anything other than an incremental update, and thus feels lackluster. The same thing will happen with the Deadpool movie sequel. The first movie was innovative in that it was the first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall, have tons of R-rated jokes, etc, but you can only do that once.

cmdrfred 10y ago
> The first movie was innovative in that it was the first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall, have tons of R-rated jokes, etc, Check out Naked Gun kiddo.
- nameless912 10y ago
  > The first movie that I care about to break the fourth wall, have tons of R-rated jokes, etc, What he probably meant to say. So often we forget that literally everything is an "overdone trope" at this point, unless you do it well.
  - cmdrfred 10y ago
    True. The first movie I 'care about' that fits this description is probably Austin Powers then. Watch it again if you haven't in years, you'll catch all the jokes that flew over your head as a kid.
    - SmellyGeekBoy 10y ago
      I loved it as a teenager but watched it again recently (now in my early 30s) and thought it was truly awful. Some things are better left in the past!
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  Also Blazing Saddles.
blakeyrat 10y ago
> The first movie was innovative in that it was the first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall, You're either very young, or haven't watched very many movies.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  I think what he meant to say was that it was the first mainstream movie to combine breaking the fourth wall with lots of R-Rated jokes and certain other unspecified features that is, the list of features was a unit, not a list of things that Deadpool was first at individually. At least, that's the charitable interpretation that makes the claim not-laughable-on-its-face.
nameless912 10y ago
Counterexample: Portal 2. Same basic concept, innovated on the original in every conceivable way. Sure, I like the original better because nostalgia glasses, but I can objectively state that the sequel is a fucking excellent game.
douche 10y ago
> first mainstream movie to break the fourth wall What's it all about, Alfie? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_(1966_film)#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfie_(1966_film)#Reception
JoshTriplett 10y ago
> The problem with sequels in games this good is that the game is so much better than anything else when it is released, that a sequel can't be anything other than an incremental update, and thus feels lackluster. Depends on the sequel. If the sequel is just an additional collection of levels, then just provide a fun "additional levels pack" as an add-on, and/or provide a way to share community-produced levels. That doesn't have the same expectations as a sequel. If you're going to actually make a sequel, put enough effort, new mechanics, and story into it to make it a new game in its own right. For examples of sequels that put enough effort in to be a new game while still feeling like a sequel to the original, look at Portal 2, or Super Mario Bros 3 (by contrast to Lost Levels, which was fundamentally just a level pack). Numerous sequels pull this off, even of innovative indie games. But it's also possible that the new game will end up with entirely new mechanics and story to the point that it isn't a sequel, and instead becomes "a new game from the makers of ...". And that's awesome too.

spatulon 10y ago

The game felt like a pretty thorough exploration of the time-rewind mechanic, and Blow was obviously careful that each puzzle served a unique purpose. I doubt he feels like he has anything interesting to put in a Braid II that wasn't already in the first game.

27182818284 10y ago
I'd even buy some extra levels with just the original Braid's gameplay. I think, though, that he could come up with some new creative power-ups and such to add to the gameplay. I keep thinking like a Mario vs Mario 3 idea. Sure it still had firepower and such, but adding the flying added a lot to the game.

captn3m0 10y ago

I don't think that is gonna happen though. He'd would want Braid to stand in its own right.