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You haven't answered my question, which is which company/country deals with 28 languages ? The EU isn't a country. Maybe you don't understand English. And whic

by kartD 10y ago

You haven't answered my question, which is which company/country deals with 28 languages ? The EU isn't a country. Maybe you don't understand English. And which company works in multiple languages within it's own home country? Your wiki source relies on 2001 data (and only considers English speakers [0] and you used as logic that 90% of India doesn't speak English, so it is in fact, mere opinion - yours). When counting both users and speakers, the value was 350M which is ~30% of the population. It is about speaking. On a single team does it make sense that one does the docs in Hindi, and the non-Hindi speakers do what exactly with this doc? Or does he/she do one in each language? Will every college teach subjects in 28 different languages? Does any European university teach each subject in 28 languages? Do any of the countries in East Asia? Your NYT article is an opinion piece, it's not admissible or inadmissible. If you're relying on opinion pieces, your logic is already flawed. Most of what you say is a misrepresentation of facts. [0]- "Wikipedia's old estimate of 350 million includes two categories – "English Speakers" and "English Users". The distinction between the Speakers and Users is that Users only know how to read English words while Speakers know how to read English, understand spoken English as well as form their own sentences to converse in English.

ittekimasu 10y ago
There is nothing new that you say other than, - some unqualified pedantry about the data being from 2001. "Oh yeah, we used to oppress people for eons; they've adapted in the past decade." - The number of fluent English speakers is apparently in the low single digits. Fairly obvious there is a nauseous class system in India, from the NyT article (speaking English gets you a good job ? What kind of society is that ? India is Anglo-Saxon ?). - I don't think India is "country" in the same way as European states are. To be fair to Europe, Belgium today does work today with both Dutch and French. As a cohort of people, EU, is much closer to India, in terms of diversity etc (yes, I looked up the demographics). - If you wish to use the epistemological grounding of a European, you're essentially vindicating my position: you have no understanding of the language/concepts you speak. - Finally, I really don't want to continue this exercise in shallowness (even the narratives are so shallow!). Asking me to answer rhetorical questions hardly amounts to reason. Good luck being a (medieval) WASP clone, and trampling on people's tongues (see, now, that is an interesting narrative).
- kartD 10y ago
  You've answered nothing I've asked (350M speakers which is 30% of the pop, Belgium uses 2 languages and somehow India isn't a country) and then end with what is at best a racial insult. You're free to have your opinions, but I don't see the point in arguing with you. You clearly can't or won't read or nor argue coherently and hurl pathetic insults.
  - ittekimasu 10y ago
    For the sake of posterity, the parent here is not contending that exclusion exists, but is claiming that it is "inevitable" like "manifest destiny". More resources on this ghastly society, - A book which basically arrives at the same conclusion: India is a linguistic apartheid state , https://books.google.com/books?id=QJpjhC6BuM4C&pg=PA124&lpg=PA122&dq=india+linguistic+apartheid&source=bl&ots=cU2vNuorrW&sig=XfLzzwwIWKbx-iXNTaFez6Dsp50&hl=kn&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3rPna_4LOAhVIyGMKHRrADZ8Q6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=india%20linguistic%20apartheid&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=QJpjhC6BuM4C&pg=PA124&lpg=... - India ranks in the bottom 73-74 in PISA (while China/Japan/S.Korea are in the top 10; Vietnam in the top-20s). - India's literacy is < 80%, probably because there's no real opportunity even if you're educated (and have the misfortune of not speaking English). - http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/why-india-must-move-beyond-english/ http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/why-india-must-move-beyond-en... I'm surprised there hasn't been a rerun of French revolution by the proletariat; or may be India just doesn't care - that'd explain the colonization.
    - kartD 10y ago
      Yes, I'm sure you believe all of that, consider joining the far-right parties of Europe, you'll find an excellent home for your beliefs and platform
      - ittekimasu 10y ago
        Such linguistic dissonance that you even have your directions wrong ! What's next you'll claim freedom movements are far right ?! Wow such ability to live with lies. Astonishing. I can only hope India goes through "clone wars" for humanity's sake.

by kartD 10y ago

ittekimasu 10y ago

There is nothing new that you say other than, - some unqualified pedantry about the data being from 2001. "Oh yeah, we used to oppress people for eons; they've adapted in the past decade." - The number of fluent English speakers is apparently in the low single digits. Fairly obvious there is a nauseous class system in India, from the NyT article (speaking English gets you a good job ? What kind of society is that ? India is Anglo-Saxon ?). - I don't think India is "country" in the same way as European states are. To be fair to Europe, Belgium today does work today with both Dutch and French. As a cohort of people, EU, is much closer to India, in terms of diversity etc (yes, I looked up the demographics). - If you wish to use the epistemological grounding of a European, you're essentially vindicating my position: you have no understanding of the language/concepts you speak. - Finally, I really don't want to continue this exercise in shallowness (even the narratives are so shallow!). Asking me to answer rhetorical questions hardly amounts to reason. Good luck being a (medieval) WASP clone, and trampling on people's tongues (see, now, that is an interesting narrative).

kartD 10y ago
You've answered nothing I've asked (350M speakers which is 30% of the pop, Belgium uses 2 languages and somehow India isn't a country) and then end with what is at best a racial insult. You're free to have your opinions, but I don't see the point in arguing with you. You clearly can't or won't read or nor argue coherently and hurl pathetic insults.
- ittekimasu 10y ago
  For the sake of posterity, the parent here is not contending that exclusion exists, but is claiming that it is "inevitable" like "manifest destiny". More resources on this ghastly society, - A book which basically arrives at the same conclusion: India is a linguistic apartheid state , https://books.google.com/books?id=QJpjhC6BuM4C&pg=PA124&lpg=PA122&dq=india+linguistic+apartheid&source=bl&ots=cU2vNuorrW&sig=XfLzzwwIWKbx-iXNTaFez6Dsp50&hl=kn&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3rPna_4LOAhVIyGMKHRrADZ8Q6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=india%20linguistic%20apartheid&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=QJpjhC6BuM4C&pg=PA124&lpg=... - India ranks in the bottom 73-74 in PISA (while China/Japan/S.Korea are in the top 10; Vietnam in the top-20s). - India's literacy is < 80%, probably because there's no real opportunity even if you're educated (and have the misfortune of not speaking English). - http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/why-india-must-move-beyond-english/ http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/why-india-must-move-beyond-en... I'm surprised there hasn't been a rerun of French revolution by the proletariat; or may be India just doesn't care - that'd explain the colonization.
  - kartD 10y ago
    Yes, I'm sure you believe all of that, consider joining the far-right parties of Europe, you'll find an excellent home for your beliefs and platform
    - ittekimasu 10y ago
      Such linguistic dissonance that you even have your directions wrong ! What's next you'll claim freedom movements are far right ?! Wow such ability to live with lies. Astonishing. I can only hope India goes through "clone wars" for humanity's sake.