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Unfortunately the web development profession has decided to shoot itself in the face and make framework-oriented development mandatory. I mean sure, one can sti

by blub 10y ago

Unfortunately the web development profession has decided to shoot itself in the face and make framework-oriented development mandatory. I mean sure, one can still build sane web projects, just don't expect to be able to get a job doing that and do expect to be mocked as some sort of luddite. I am sort of curious if this pile of complexity will at some point implode, but mostly I am happy that I got out of webdev when I did. Today's web development is making a mockery of the ideas of usability, accessibility and standards.

Silhouette 10y ago
I mean sure, one can still build sane web projects, just don't expect to be able to get a job doing that and do expect to be mocked as some sort of luddite. When we build web apps for clients, they generally don't care what tools we use as long as the results are good. There's still plenty of work out there like this and there are still plenty of success stories. You just have to avoid the parts of the industry, particularly around the startup scene, where most developers have just a few years of experience and are heavily influenced by high profile online commentary. That type of business tends to hire buzzword-compliant people because even their own "senior" developers don't have enough experience to know any better.
- Fifer82 10y ago
  You just have to avoid the parts of the industry, particularly around the startup scene, where most developers have just a few years of experience and are heavily influenced by high profile online commentary. This is a great piece of advice.
vectorpush 10y ago
>Unfortunately the web development profession has decided to shoot itself in the face and make framework-oriented development mandatory Frameworks are commonly used across many programming industries. It's also not any framework's fault that the PM (or you) chose the wrong framework. >just don't expect to be able to get a job doing that and do expect to be mocked as some sort of luddite. I've never heard anyone mocked as a luddite for using the simplest solution necessary to meet requirements, that sounds like something programmer's are complimented for (if they can show results). If you want a job where the employer uses a trendy framework... just learn the framework; it's either that or learn the company's hand-rolled framework, at least with a trendy framework you're also investing in potential future prospects.

by blub 10y ago

Silhouette 10y ago

I mean sure, one can still build sane web projects, just don't expect to be able to get a job doing that and do expect to be mocked as some sort of luddite. When we build web apps for clients, they generally don't care what tools we use as long as the results are good. There's still plenty of work out there like this and there are still plenty of success stories. You just have to avoid the parts of the industry, particularly around the startup scene, where most developers have just a few years of experience and are heavily influenced by high profile online commentary. That type of business tends to hire buzzword-compliant people because even their own "senior" developers don't have enough experience to know any better.

Fifer82 10y ago
You just have to avoid the parts of the industry, particularly around the startup scene, where most developers have just a few years of experience and are heavily influenced by high profile online commentary. This is a great piece of advice.

vectorpush 10y ago

>Unfortunately the web development profession has decided to shoot itself in the face and make framework-oriented development mandatory Frameworks are commonly used across many programming industries. It's also not any framework's fault that the PM (or you) chose the wrong framework. >just don't expect to be able to get a job doing that and do expect to be mocked as some sort of luddite. I've never heard anyone mocked as a luddite for using the simplest solution necessary to meet requirements, that sounds like something programmer's are complimented for (if they can show results). If you want a job where the employer uses a trendy framework... just learn the framework; it's either that or learn the company's hand-rolled framework, at least with a trendy framework you're also investing in potential future prospects.