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Emirates has some of the highest revenue and cost numbers per average seat kilometre [0]. It's also subsidised to a large extent by the UAE [1]. I don't find

by nstj 10y ago

Emirates has some of the highest revenue and cost numbers per average seat kilometre [0]. It's also subsidised to a large extent by the UAE [1]. I don't find the word "rich" to be very descriptive, but "high end" could easily apply in this circumstance. [0]: http://www.oliverwyman.com/content/dam/oliver-wyman/global/en/2016/jan/oliver-wyman-airline-economic-analysis-2015-2016.pdf http://www.oliverwyman.com/content/dam/oliver-wyman/global/e... [1]: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/emirates-confirms-billions-in-government-subsidy-for-airport-terminal-300134208.html http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/emirates-confirms-bi...

viraptor 10y ago
I don't necessarily disagree with the high end. But looking at the CASK it's worth noting that they're almost exclusively long-distance flights. I'd like to see the graph from [0] split into long-haul and others. Currently they've got Emirates flying 10+ hours on the same graph as EasyJet doing 30min in Europe. Same for Quantas which does domestic 1h flights as well as international Dubai, or west coast US but is in one bar only. I know these are normalised per kilometer in theory, but there's a threshold when you need 2x the crew, can't really go without entertainment system, etc. Or specifically why I didn't say rich is that it's not like you have a lot of choice flying long-haul over middle east. You're likely to get a stop-over in Dubai and if you're flying One World, you're likely to have an Emirates code share.
- spacehunt 10y ago
  Of the ME3 Qatar is the one that's in oneworld. Though it is Emirates who usually codeshares with Qantas because of their separate partnership agreement.
  - viraptor 10y ago
    You're right. I got so used to flying Emirates/Qantas codeshares I was sure it's because of One World. You learn every day...
dzhiurgis 10y ago
Where does virgin stand? I thought they are the most expensive. Also I didn't find Emirates particularly different. The ones that did stand out to me is SAS.
- nstj 10y ago
  There are a few different Virgin Airlines atm (Australia, Atlantic, e.g.)

by nstj 10y ago

viraptor 10y ago

I don't necessarily disagree with the high end. But looking at the CASK it's worth noting that they're almost exclusively long-distance flights. I'd like to see the graph from [0] split into long-haul and others. Currently they've got Emirates flying 10+ hours on the same graph as EasyJet doing 30min in Europe. Same for Quantas which does domestic 1h flights as well as international Dubai, or west coast US but is in one bar only. I know these are normalised per kilometer in theory, but there's a threshold when you need 2x the crew, can't really go without entertainment system, etc. Or specifically why I didn't say rich is that it's not like you have a lot of choice flying long-haul over middle east. You're likely to get a stop-over in Dubai and if you're flying One World, you're likely to have an Emirates code share.

spacehunt 10y ago
Of the ME3 Qatar is the one that's in oneworld. Though it is Emirates who usually codeshares with Qantas because of their separate partnership agreement.
- viraptor 10y ago
  You're right. I got so used to flying Emirates/Qantas codeshares I was sure it's because of One World. You learn every day...

dzhiurgis 10y ago

Where does virgin stand? I thought they are the most expensive. Also I didn't find Emirates particularly different. The ones that did stand out to me is SAS.

nstj 10y ago
There are a few different Virgin Airlines atm (Australia, Atlantic, e.g.)