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Thanks for the insights. I must say I hesitated a lot before using this example because it's a smoking hot news and Erdogan could probably have settled this wh

• Grishnakh 10y ago
  Being able to talk freely about his lies isn't helping; the Turkish citizens are happily signing up to be his brownshirts. Those of us who are outside the country and not Turkish can point this stuff out all we want, but it doesn't really matter. I'm sure people in England, the US, Poland, France, etc. said similar stuff about Hitler in the 30s, but it didn't help then either. I won't be too surprised to see Turkey setting up death camps soon, for all the Kurds, intellectuals, and others opposed to his regime. And like Germany and Rwanda, the rest of the world will just stand by and watch. I'd also like to point out that even with the internet and freedom of expression here in the US, we're not doing a great job of electing our next leader, and the ability to "expose lies" isn't helping either: no one believes it. People on the right don't believe it when others point out how their leaders or candidates are lying to them, and people on the left likewise don't believe it when others point out to them how their leaders and candidates are liars and crooks. It's probably much the same in Turkey right now; they do have internet access, Facebook, etc. But the pro-Erdogan people simply aren't going to believe anything they're told by anti-Erdogan people.