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May give Vivaldi a look. Made by many of the original Opera people. https://vivaldi.com/ https://vivaldi.com/

by digi_owl 10y ago

subie 10y ago
is this using electron?
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- zdkl 10y ago
  Vivaldi is built on Chromium I believe
- city41 10y ago
  Doesn't look to be using Electron, as Vivaldi.app/Contents/Frameworks does not contain the Electron framework.
jacek 10y ago
Thanks, I will give it a try again, but the last time I didn't like the UI.
- Teksource 10y ago
  The UI is great. But if you do not like it, customize it, either with massive CSS rewrites or the built inside customization options.
  - jacek 10y ago
    I just found this: https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-customizable-ui-themes# https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-cu...! (dev version). It allows full customization with CSS! That's great!
    - CyberShadow 10y ago
      A little-known fact, but you can customize the Firefox UI with CSS too: http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css My Firefox currently looks like this: https://dump.thecybershadow.net/0177f0cecdf6ad3b65158858a210805d/firefox.png https://dump.thecybershadow.net/0177f0cecdf6ad3b65158858a210...
      - hello_asdf 10y ago
        Would you share your userchrome.css file? Thanks.
      - SturgeonsLaw 10y ago
        Wow, that looks very cool. I'd also be interested in seeing the CSS behind that if you don't mind sharing?
- vasili111 10y ago
  https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-customizable-ui-themes https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-cu...
dingdingdang 10y ago
But Vivaldi == "We use JavaScript and React to create the user interface with the help of Node.js and a long list of NPM modules. Vivaldi is the web built with the web.". Which again equals: do I really want to trust that browser knowing how NPM modules are basically the least secure thing ever?
- RubyPinch 10y ago
  a) that wouldn't affect a build, assuming they cache their packages, which they probably would since that event b) didn't they change their unpublishing policy after that event?
Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
Vivaldi is closed source.
- Fej 10y ago
  ...why? That doesn't make any sense.
  - JohnTHaller 10y ago
    "Competitive advantage" most likely. They built their own HTML-based UI on top of Chromium. So, their browser engine is just Chrome/Chromium/Blink, not something unique. Vivaldi can't even sync your bookmarks between devices yet (at least the last time I checked).
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  Not entirely: https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en
  - Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
    That's just their chromium patches. You can't build vivaldi from that.

May give Vivaldi a look. Made by many of the original Opera people. https://vivaldi.com/ https://vivaldi.com/

subie 10y ago

is this using electron?

deleted 10y ago
[deleted]
zdkl 10y ago
Vivaldi is built on Chromium I believe
city41 10y ago
Doesn't look to be using Electron, as Vivaldi.app/Contents/Frameworks does not contain the Electron framework.

jacek 10y ago

Thanks, I will give it a try again, but the last time I didn't like the UI.

Teksource 10y ago
The UI is great. But if you do not like it, customize it, either with massive CSS rewrites or the built inside customization options.
- jacek 10y ago
  I just found this: https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-customizable-ui-themes# https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-cu...! (dev version). It allows full customization with CSS! That's great!
  - CyberShadow 10y ago
    A little-known fact, but you can customize the Firefox UI with CSS too: http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css My Firefox currently looks like this: https://dump.thecybershadow.net/0177f0cecdf6ad3b65158858a210805d/firefox.png https://dump.thecybershadow.net/0177f0cecdf6ad3b65158858a210...
    - hello_asdf 10y ago
      Would you share your userchrome.css file? Thanks.
    - SturgeonsLaw 10y ago
      Wow, that looks very cool. I'd also be interested in seeing the CSS behind that if you don't mind sharing?
vasili111 10y ago
https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-customizable-ui-themes https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/121-snapshot-1-3-501-6-cu...

dingdingdang 10y ago

But Vivaldi == "We use JavaScript and React to create the user interface with the help of Node.js and a long list of NPM modules. Vivaldi is the web built with the web.". Which again equals: do I really want to trust that browser knowing how NPM modules are basically the least secure thing ever?

RubyPinch 10y ago
a) that wouldn't affect a build, assuming they cache their packages, which they probably would since that event b) didn't they change their unpublishing policy after that event?

Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago

Vivaldi is closed source.

Fej 10y ago
...why? That doesn't make any sense.
- JohnTHaller 10y ago
  "Competitive advantage" most likely. They built their own HTML-based UI on top of Chromium. So, their browser engine is just Chrome/Chromium/Blink, not something unique. Vivaldi can't even sync your bookmarks between devices yet (at least the last time I checked).
Mithaldu 10y ago
Not entirely: https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en
- Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
  That's just their chromium patches. You can't build vivaldi from that.