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No it's not ok, but you're publishing to a worldwide audience and I'm sorry if this is a tired argument that pro women (myself included) people are tired of hea

No it's not ok, but you're publishing to a worldwide audience and I'm sorry if this is a tired argument that pro women (myself included) people are tired of hearing, but there are ALWAYS going to be a certain subset of creeps you have to deal with. Believe me it's a privilege to be male that the vast majority of males don't fully appreciate, myself included until very recently, that we don't generally have to deal with this kind of garbage, but I genuinely can't envision a future where this isn't the case. That does suck too because I'd love to see more women getting into STEM, especially coding.

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- FussyZeus 10y ago
  There are a ton of not okay things that exist in the world that we all deal with daily (frankly women deal with more). I'm not pro-harassment, I'm simply arguing for reality.
atrophying 10y ago
Speaking as an lady old fart on the Internet, it wasn't nearly this bad 15, 20 years ago. I've spent literally decades in some of these Internet communities, and the level of disrespect women receive on the Internet has skyrocketed in the past 10 years. Used to be that shit like doxing was incredibly rare; now it's an everyday occurrence and has to be factored into most women's social media. There's also a lot to be said for standing up and saying, "hey, this isn't okay behavior." Because it won't change unless this kind of behavior is brought into the spotlight and their perpetrators left to scurry like roaches.
- FussyZeus 10y ago
  > Speaking as an lady old fart on the Internet, it wasn't nearly this bad 15, 20 years ago. That I will definitely agree with, but the demographics were much different. Back then the Internet was almost entirely professional companies and university students. Now it's literally everyone, and that means you get roughly the same ratio of shitty people to normal people, amplified by the fact that all you need to start a twitter account is an email address. I get that a lot of people have issues with Facebooks real name policy, but forgetting the problems than transgender folk have with getting Facebook to let them use the name they want, it has done a great deal to curb harassment on that platform. IMHO you can have a good community, you can have an anonymous community, but with regular people in the mix you can't have both.

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FussyZeus 10y ago
There are a ton of not okay things that exist in the world that we all deal with daily (frankly women deal with more). I'm not pro-harassment, I'm simply arguing for reality.

atrophying 10y ago

Speaking as an lady old fart on the Internet, it wasn't nearly this bad 15, 20 years ago. I've spent literally decades in some of these Internet communities, and the level of disrespect women receive on the Internet has skyrocketed in the past 10 years. Used to be that shit like doxing was incredibly rare; now it's an everyday occurrence and has to be factored into most women's social media. There's also a lot to be said for standing up and saying, "hey, this isn't okay behavior." Because it won't change unless this kind of behavior is brought into the spotlight and their perpetrators left to scurry like roaches.

FussyZeus 10y ago
> Speaking as an lady old fart on the Internet, it wasn't nearly this bad 15, 20 years ago. That I will definitely agree with, but the demographics were much different. Back then the Internet was almost entirely professional companies and university students. Now it's literally everyone, and that means you get roughly the same ratio of shitty people to normal people, amplified by the fact that all you need to start a twitter account is an email address. I get that a lot of people have issues with Facebooks real name policy, but forgetting the problems than transgender folk have with getting Facebook to let them use the name they want, it has done a great deal to curb harassment on that platform. IMHO you can have a good community, you can have an anonymous community, but with regular people in the mix you can't have both.