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> A coup orchestrated by an Imam and his group sheltered by U.S.A And you got those "facts" from where?

• neoeldex 10y ago
  These stories are spread by Erdogan, IMO I find the 'Erdogan staged everything' conspiracy much more believable. Bringing back democracy by sacking thousands of judges.
  • mustaflex 10y ago
    those gulenist judges threw 1000 officers in prison to weaken the secular force in the army and they put their people in it instead, we got these result today. The seculars like me are in a quandary: we know gulen is behind the coup, but we also know that our crazy president will use this failed attempt to muster more power.
• mustaflex 10y ago
  Is Gulen the leader of the Hizmet movement? yes did Gulen followers infiltrate the judicial system, police, and army and undermined secular forces under Erdogan's reign? yes Did Gulen and his followers turned against Erdogan when they disagreed on how to share power? yes Did Gulen's followers attempted a coup to ovethrow Erdogan? yes All of these happened in the span of +12 years in front of our eyes, those gulenist did all this with impunity under Ergodan's protection(until fall 2013) while praising their precious Imam living in U.S.A. In The past when you asked a gulenist why their "saint" leader lived in the U.S.A and not in a muslim country under sharia law they would say that he is so sick that he needs 50 doctors around him...They actually view him as the Messiah, you know the reincarnation of Jesus... yes we can't prove it, but how can we do it? The Hizmet movement is in some ways similar to Scientology, you know they are shady as fuck but they're so slimy that you can't catch them with their hand in your pocket. It is ironic that the only group that now is pro-american in Turkey is an Islamic sect which is at war against the secular order in Turkey.