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What that means is that people in China will still not be able to see unfiltered results as the Chinese Hong Kong version is blocked from the mainland. Google

What that means is that people in China will still not be able to see unfiltered results as the Chinese Hong Kong version is blocked from the mainland. Google Hong Kong is uncensored just like most of the world.

garply 17y ago
No, it's not blocked (yet) - but queries with certain keywords are being filtered as they always have. It appears the keyword filtering is now more severe, as I've mentioned elsewhere.
- Herring 17y ago
  Why isn't everyone encrypting everything?
  - richardw 17y ago
    Probably not smart to tell the government you'd like to hide your comms from them. Although if everyone did (e.g. it was built into the browser) then it might be hard to figure out who to watch.
  - roundsquare 17y ago
    Really? As if most people even know then can, and if they do, they know how? Always good to remember that non-techies don't even know what options are available much less how to make use of them. Aside from that, I'd wonder if in China they are worried about getting caught and getting in trouble with the government.
    - chrischen 17y ago
      > Aside from that, I'd wonder if in China they are worried about getting caught and getting in trouble with the government. It's called being "harmonized." They joke about it, but not sure if it's a serious concern. Given their large population I doubt it.
    - Herring 17y ago
      Yeah cryptography is hard for users.. I was wondering why companies (eg google) don't use https everywhere.
      - olefoo 17y ago
        Because it costs money. An https connection requires an order of magnitude more resources to set up and maintain than a plain old http connection. Even with hardware acceleration it takes more electricity per connection, and dedicated SSL accelerator boxes are not cheap (a pair of load-balancers with SSL acceleration will cost more than a new car). When you're operating at the scale of Google, that can add up quickly.

garply 17y ago

No, it's not blocked (yet) - but queries with certain keywords are being filtered as they always have. It appears the keyword filtering is now more severe, as I've mentioned elsewhere.

Herring 17y ago
Why isn't everyone encrypting everything?
- richardw 17y ago
  Probably not smart to tell the government you'd like to hide your comms from them. Although if everyone did (e.g. it was built into the browser) then it might be hard to figure out who to watch.
- roundsquare 17y ago
  Really? As if most people even know then can, and if they do, they know how? Always good to remember that non-techies don't even know what options are available much less how to make use of them. Aside from that, I'd wonder if in China they are worried about getting caught and getting in trouble with the government.
  - chrischen 17y ago
    > Aside from that, I'd wonder if in China they are worried about getting caught and getting in trouble with the government. It's called being "harmonized." They joke about it, but not sure if it's a serious concern. Given their large population I doubt it.
  - Herring 17y ago
    Yeah cryptography is hard for users.. I was wondering why companies (eg google) don't use https everywhere.
    - olefoo 17y ago
      Because it costs money. An https connection requires an order of magnitude more resources to set up and maintain than a plain old http connection. Even with hardware acceleration it takes more electricity per connection, and dedicated SSL accelerator boxes are not cheap (a pair of load-balancers with SSL acceleration will cost more than a new car). When you're operating at the scale of Google, that can add up quickly.