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As far as I know, we don't know the motivation of the Nice attack, so we can't yet say it was certainly terrorism. It was certainly a deliberate act of mass mur

As far as I know, we don't know the motivation of the Nice attack, so we can't yet say it was certainly terrorism. It was certainly a deliberate act of mass murder but that does not necessarily mean it was a terrorist attack, which implies a political or religious motivation to terrorize (as opposed to, say, mental illness or general hatefulness). For example most US mass shootings are not considered terrorism. I realize this sounds a bit like hair splitting in the face of a horrible mass murder, but terrorism has different policy implications from other kinds of mass murder, so we should be careful about language.

bybjorn 10y ago
You do not believe the reports that he was shouting "allahu akbar" then? Also, check the latest news on the "cryptic sms's" sent from his phone.
- sevenless 10y ago
  The information content of "Allah Ackbar" from an Arabic speaker is essentially nil - it's used the same way English speakers use "Oh my god" - but him asking another involved party for "more weapons" via SMS, if true, suggests it was a coordinated attack and most likely terrorism.
DominikR 10y ago
Yeah, I've noticed that Liberals/Socialists nowadays tend to split hairs to relabel terrorists as something else. So it's not a jihadist terror attack but instead the cause is repressed homosexuality or toxic male masculinity. I was speechless when a few days ago Obama said it was hard to "untangle" the true motives of the guy that shot 5 police officers in Dallas even though the attacker himself stated he wanted to kill as many whites and white police officers as possible. It's plain and simple denial, because these things do not fit their political narrative.
- zuminator 10y ago
  Wanting to kill as many whites and police officers as possible isn't a motive, it's a description. True motives means, what triggered this previously law-abiding man to go off like that?
  - DominikR 10y ago
    The Dallas shooter showed support for several "Black Power Groups" - I'm sure these are not racist like White Power groups are. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/suspect-in-dallas-attack-had-interest-in-black-power-groups.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/suspect-in-dallas-attac... Meanwhile people at Black Lives Matter protests chant "Kill cops" and "Pigs In A Blanket, Fry 'Em Like Bacon!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws Hard to untangle what is going on here. > what triggered this previously law-abiding man to go off like that Typical liberal statement, the perpetrator of a crime is the victim. Something triggered him to do it! Remove the triggers and all will be fine.

bybjorn 10y ago

You do not believe the reports that he was shouting "allahu akbar" then? Also, check the latest news on the "cryptic sms's" sent from his phone.

sevenless 10y ago
The information content of "Allah Ackbar" from an Arabic speaker is essentially nil - it's used the same way English speakers use "Oh my god" - but him asking another involved party for "more weapons" via SMS, if true, suggests it was a coordinated attack and most likely terrorism.

DominikR 10y ago

Yeah, I've noticed that Liberals/Socialists nowadays tend to split hairs to relabel terrorists as something else. So it's not a jihadist terror attack but instead the cause is repressed homosexuality or toxic male masculinity. I was speechless when a few days ago Obama said it was hard to "untangle" the true motives of the guy that shot 5 police officers in Dallas even though the attacker himself stated he wanted to kill as many whites and white police officers as possible. It's plain and simple denial, because these things do not fit their political narrative.

zuminator 10y ago
Wanting to kill as many whites and police officers as possible isn't a motive, it's a description. True motives means, what triggered this previously law-abiding man to go off like that?
- DominikR 10y ago
  The Dallas shooter showed support for several "Black Power Groups" - I'm sure these are not racist like White Power groups are. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/suspect-in-dallas-attack-had-interest-in-black-power-groups.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/suspect-in-dallas-attac... Meanwhile people at Black Lives Matter protests chant "Kill cops" and "Pigs In A Blanket, Fry 'Em Like Bacon!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws Hard to untangle what is going on here. > what triggered this previously law-abiding man to go off like that Typical liberal statement, the perpetrator of a crime is the victim. Something triggered him to do it! Remove the triggers and all will be fine.