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Maybe the lack of coordination between intelligence agencies is to blame (it cannot help anyway) but it cannot alone explain the difference. First we (I am Fren

Maybe the lack of coordination between intelligence agencies is to blame (it cannot help anyway) but it cannot alone explain the difference. First we (I am French) have a larger muslim population: 3-3,5 millions for UK the double in France mainly from North Africa. So statistically speaking there's a higher chance of having islamists in France. Also many of French of Arabic origin just hate or despise France and the causes have different roots: historical (Algerian war), cultural and societal (high unemployment rate especially among arabic population). For UK, I don't think their population of muslims origin "have a grudge" on their host. Every Bastille day, new year's eve or big event does not go without burning cars and policemen attacked by young people with many of them being of North African origin, and it's getting worse with time. Of course relations between the different ethnic group are not going to get any better now . I am very pessimistic about the future of my country. I see a lot of educated young people wanting to leave it (and not only for business opportunities) and the level of violence raising up. Bad time for being French.

ap22213 10y ago
Could you or other French elaborate more on that last paragraph? I'm curious of why the younger French would want to leave. Is it only because of the influx of Muslims, violence, and job opportunities? Or, are there other things going on, as well?
- bengalister 10y ago
  I don't how it is much different to other European countries but many people of my entourage went abroad. Some ex co-workers went to USA & Canada, some cousins to Scotland, Singapore and Ireland. And they have no intention to come back. That's the difference with 15 years ago, expats used to come back. Also some young co-workers also are searching jobs out of France, even co-workers of Arabic origins want to leave (1 is in the process of being recruited for a Dubai job). That's not a coincidence. The main reason used to be of the French gloomy economy, especially for the new comers on the job market, it is very hard even with qualifications to find a job. And there's no perspective on improvement on that side since the mentalities are very conservative (to stay polite). People think they cannot be successful in France and can be in the countries mentioned above. Now since 5 years ago, I think you can add the feeling of France not being safe. Many jews left France being fed-up of being targeted by the muslim community and the lack of reaction from "traditional" French. The influx of people from troubled areas is not going to help. I expect the number of French leaving the country to boom.

ap22213 10y ago

Could you or other French elaborate more on that last paragraph? I'm curious of why the younger French would want to leave. Is it only because of the influx of Muslims, violence, and job opportunities? Or, are there other things going on, as well?

bengalister 10y ago
I don't how it is much different to other European countries but many people of my entourage went abroad. Some ex co-workers went to USA & Canada, some cousins to Scotland, Singapore and Ireland. And they have no intention to come back. That's the difference with 15 years ago, expats used to come back. Also some young co-workers also are searching jobs out of France, even co-workers of Arabic origins want to leave (1 is in the process of being recruited for a Dubai job). That's not a coincidence. The main reason used to be of the French gloomy economy, especially for the new comers on the job market, it is very hard even with qualifications to find a job. And there's no perspective on improvement on that side since the mentalities are very conservative (to stay polite). People think they cannot be successful in France and can be in the countries mentioned above. Now since 5 years ago, I think you can add the feeling of France not being safe. Many jews left France being fed-up of being targeted by the muslim community and the lack of reaction from "traditional" French. The influx of people from troubled areas is not going to help. I expect the number of French leaving the country to boom.