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It's also a lot quicker and easier to prepare packaged and ready-to-eat meals which have some scary nutritional profiles. Poor people can often have chaotic and

It's also a lot quicker and easier to prepare packaged and ready-to-eat meals which have some scary nutritional profiles. Poor people can often have chaotic and busy lives which precludes finding and preparing fresh food. Also: http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defines-food-deserts http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defi...

ethbro 10y ago
Also, they may simply lack access. Try walking to your nearest grocery in the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
- WalterSear 10y ago
  Availability doesn't appear to trump culture. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/upshot/giving-the-poor-easy-access-to-healthy-food-doesnt-mean-theyll-buy-it.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/upshot/giving-the-poor-eas...
  - ethbro 10y ago
    "Generational habits of consumers don't change overnight" seems a less than surprising conclusion for something as social as food. Even with availability + affordability + community education, I can't expect you'd be looking at less than a half-generation for diets to change.
    - WalterSear 10y ago
      Ergo, food deserts aren't a valid way to look at the situation, since availability isn't the fundamental problem.
      - ethbro 10y ago
        That doesn't following from my way of looking at it. Your view as I understand it: research shows that availability doesn't change dietary habits over the short term, therefore something other than availability is the fundamental problem. My view: the research you've linked shows that availability doesn't change dietary habits over the short term, but that might still mean that availability is a fundamental problem over the longer term or still a necessary but not sufficient fundamental problem over the short term (e.g. maybe it takes availability + education).

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It's also a lot quicker and easier to prepare packaged and ready-to-eat meals which have some scary nutritional profiles. Poor people can often have chaotic and

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ethbro 10y ago
Also, they may simply lack access. Try walking to your nearest grocery in the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
- WalterSear 10y ago
  Availability doesn't appear to trump culture. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/upshot/giving-the-poor-easy-access-to-healthy-food-doesnt-mean-theyll-buy-it.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/upshot/giving-the-poor-eas...
  - ethbro 10y ago
    "Generational habits of consumers don't change overnight" seems a less than surprising conclusion for something as social as food. Even with availability + affordability + community education, I can't expect you'd be looking at less than a half-generation for diets to change.
    - WalterSear 10y ago
      Ergo, food deserts aren't a valid way to look at the situation, since availability isn't the fundamental problem.
      - ethbro 10y ago
        That doesn't following from my way of looking at it. Your view as I understand it: research shows that availability doesn't change dietary habits over the short term, therefore something other than availability is the fundamental problem. My view: the research you've linked shows that availability doesn't change dietary habits over the short term, but that might still mean that availability is a fundamental problem over the longer term or still a necessary but not sufficient fundamental problem over the short term (e.g. maybe it takes availability + education).