Exactly - the EU is more complicated than the UK parliament, and I honestly think that most people who call it democratic have no idea how it works (or have tho

Exactly - the EU is more complicated than the UK parliament, and I honestly think that most people who call it democratic have no idea how it works (or have thought whether the equivalent institutions in the UK are just as 'undemocratic'). Someone on my facebook feed actually stated, in a patronising tone, that it was clearly undemocratic because the president chose the council directly, and the council then chose the president - so they just all vote for each other - and that the president was the only person on the Ballot when the MEPs were asked (obviously they view the MEPs as an entirely useless institution to make the process 'appear' legitimate to the easily fooled). I mean clearly a little of the functionality has got through, but in such a garbled way that they really have no idea how it works, but think that they do.