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Just an idea: The only windowed applications I use are a terminal (st), my text editor (Atom), and a browser (Firefox). Suppose I switched to HyperTerm, Atom, a

by vortico 10y ago

Just an idea: The only windowed applications I use are a terminal (st), my text editor (Atom), and a browser (Firefox). Suppose I switched to HyperTerm, Atom, and Chromium. I would have three copies of the Chromium renderer and V8 interpreter loaded in memory. Is there a project that merges these things into a single daemon, to improve individual app startup time, save memory, and reduce the binary size from 42 MB (for HyperTerm) to the size of only its own components?

curioussavage 10y ago
All you have to do is enter a url and it will render web pages. It uses redux and lets extension developers modify any action basically letting them modify anything, so an extension that makes a nice browser is definitely possible. Also I'm sure you could embed Atom into it too. Basically my holy grail , an entire web dev environment in one app/window with tabs..
- xena 10y ago
  But you can already have this pretty trivially in emacs: http://puu.sh/q3hpW/2933a20e84.png http://puu.sh/q3hpW/2933a20e84.png
  - 67079F105EC467B 10y ago
    But then you are using emacs...
    - xena 10y ago
      At least it's not written in Javascript.
  - dkns 10y ago
    You can also render full webpages using webkit: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/4srze9/watching_youtube_inside_emacs_25/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/4srze9/watching_yout...
    - xena 10y ago
      Cool, I don't know if I really have a use for that though, I kinda like having the documentation I pull up match the color scheme of my code.
- fvargas 10y ago
  The moment when I saw Google render inside the terminal is when I went from "whatever" to "wow". My typical dev setup involves a fullscreen terminal (with Vim) and a Chrome window with various tabs. Furthermore, I usually place these in separate workspaces. But if I could effectively house my Chrome tabs within my terminal, that would be such a pleasure to use. Especially since switching workspaces on MacOS comes with an unconfigurable animation/delay.
odbol_ 10y ago
My OS X Terminal is already slow enough with my 20 windows open... There's no way I'd switch to an even slower, bulkier implementation with the overhead of Chromium. WTF
- vortico 10y ago
  Well, sure. That's what I was trying to fix with my suggestion. In that case, the overhead of HyperTerm could be the overhead of a Chromium tab, not an entire Electron application.
mattste 10y ago
This is something I wish more effort was being put into. As more and more apps become V8-based, with each shipping completely separated, I wish there was some way to have them share resources. I know there are a lot of issues with this (different Node versions, possibly security, and figuring out inter-app resource sharing), but it would be magnificent for my computer's battery life. Does anyone know of any work being done on this front or a possible implementation?
lerpa 10y ago
A daemon? Pff, we need Chromium running in the kernel where it truly belongs.
nojvek 10y ago
They are all based on electron. It seems like a thing electron should do. I.e spit out binaries that use chrome and node in the system.

by vortico 10y ago

curioussavage 10y ago

All you have to do is enter a url and it will render web pages. It uses redux and lets extension developers modify any action basically letting them modify anything, so an extension that makes a nice browser is definitely possible. Also I'm sure you could embed Atom into it too. Basically my holy grail , an entire web dev environment in one app/window with tabs..

xena 10y ago
But you can already have this pretty trivially in emacs: http://puu.sh/q3hpW/2933a20e84.png http://puu.sh/q3hpW/2933a20e84.png
- 67079F105EC467B 10y ago
  But then you are using emacs...
  - xena 10y ago
    At least it's not written in Javascript.
- dkns 10y ago
  You can also render full webpages using webkit: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/4srze9/watching_youtube_inside_emacs_25/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/4srze9/watching_yout...
  - xena 10y ago
    Cool, I don't know if I really have a use for that though, I kinda like having the documentation I pull up match the color scheme of my code.
fvargas 10y ago
The moment when I saw Google render inside the terminal is when I went from "whatever" to "wow". My typical dev setup involves a fullscreen terminal (with Vim) and a Chrome window with various tabs. Furthermore, I usually place these in separate workspaces. But if I could effectively house my Chrome tabs within my terminal, that would be such a pleasure to use. Especially since switching workspaces on MacOS comes with an unconfigurable animation/delay.

odbol_ 10y ago

My OS X Terminal is already slow enough with my 20 windows open... There's no way I'd switch to an even slower, bulkier implementation with the overhead of Chromium. WTF

vortico 10y ago
Well, sure. That's what I was trying to fix with my suggestion. In that case, the overhead of HyperTerm could be the overhead of a Chromium tab, not an entire Electron application.

mattste 10y ago

This is something I wish more effort was being put into. As more and more apps become V8-based, with each shipping completely separated, I wish there was some way to have them share resources. I know there are a lot of issues with this (different Node versions, possibly security, and figuring out inter-app resource sharing), but it would be magnificent for my computer's battery life. Does anyone know of any work being done on this front or a possible implementation?

lerpa 10y ago

A daemon? Pff, we need Chromium running in the kernel where it truly belongs.

nojvek 10y ago

They are all based on electron. It seems like a thing electron should do. I.e spit out binaries that use chrome and node in the system.