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This is exactly the sort of thing languages that wish to become popular need. User-friendly applies to programming environments too; batteries included should b
by Zak 17y ago
This is exactly the sort of thing languages that wish to become popular need. User-friendly applies to programming environments too; batteries included should be the result - they can always be removed later.
I'm sure someone will call that approach "bloat by default", but I think that's a red herring. Good programmers will remove bloat where it matters, and bad programmers will add bloat where it's harmful.
- leif 17y agoI absolutely agree, but the haskell guys have not quite gotten it complete. I envision mathematicians a-plenty installing ubuntu because it's "programmy" and then giving up installing the haskell platform because they don't know what compiling is or why they need all those "X-dev" packages. I for one know a few math guys that absolutely love haskell when I show it to them (more so when I talk about category theory and types :-), but would just get distracted if I asked them to run console commands in order to install it, which is a terrible shame because they totally get it on my system once everything's installed and set up.