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I support Trump. I have no problem with Putin. I find your equivalence of those two men to Hitler to be naive or intentionally inflammatory. Even given this,

by pdx 10y ago

I support Trump. I have no problem with Putin. I find your equivalence of those two men to Hitler to be naive or intentionally inflammatory. Even given this, I do not, however, intend to quit using tarsnap!

ajmurmann 10y ago
Even though I do not share your political views, I am very disappointed that you got down voted for your opinion. This is a very subjective topic and no one should be downvoted for holding non-violent opinions on topics like this where there is no objective right or wrong. If you had been unnecessarily profane or such that would be a different story, but this is just sad.
allendoerfer 10y ago
All three are terrible populists. Two have fought offensive wars. Only one is responsible for a genocide. I am indecisive whether or not one should compare people other than Stalin and the like to Hitler. It intoxicates the whole conversation but if you focus on his roots it is a pretty good argument why populism in itself is always bad.
ztratar 10y ago
The comparison between Hitler and Trump is not naive in any way. There are very logical, direct comparisons: blanket generalizations of a specific minority group, quick rise-to-power from populist hate-centric rhetoric, and lack of political or governmental experience.
thaumasiotes 10y ago
> I find your equivalence of those two men to Hitler to be naive or intentionally inflammatory. >> Why did people support Hitler? Why do people support Trump? Why do people support Putin? This structure doesn't imply that the men are equivalent. It implies that the three questions share one answer. If I tell you that the reason we fine people for speeding is the same reason that mothers in Jonestown fed poison to their babies, I hope you won't think I'm equating the acts.
- thaumasiotes 10y ago
  I'd really like to understand why this is receiving so many downvotes. What I've said amounts to pointing out that the same phenomenon can drive different outcomes, some of which may be very bad, some of which may be of limited scope, and some of which may be good. Is somebody going to disagree?

by pdx 10y ago

ajmurmann 10y ago

Even though I do not share your political views, I am very disappointed that you got down voted for your opinion. This is a very subjective topic and no one should be downvoted for holding non-violent opinions on topics like this where there is no objective right or wrong. If you had been unnecessarily profane or such that would be a different story, but this is just sad.

allendoerfer 10y ago

All three are terrible populists. Two have fought offensive wars. Only one is responsible for a genocide. I am indecisive whether or not one should compare people other than Stalin and the like to Hitler. It intoxicates the whole conversation but if you focus on his roots it is a pretty good argument why populism in itself is always bad.

ztratar 10y ago

The comparison between Hitler and Trump is not naive in any way. There are very logical, direct comparisons: blanket generalizations of a specific minority group, quick rise-to-power from populist hate-centric rhetoric, and lack of political or governmental experience.

thaumasiotes 10y ago

> I find your equivalence of those two men to Hitler to be naive or intentionally inflammatory. >> Why did people support Hitler? Why do people support Trump? Why do people support Putin? This structure doesn't imply that the men are equivalent. It implies that the three questions share one answer. If I tell you that the reason we fine people for speeding is the same reason that mothers in Jonestown fed poison to their babies, I hope you won't think I'm equating the acts.

thaumasiotes 10y ago
I'd really like to understand why this is receiving so many downvotes. What I've said amounts to pointing out that the same phenomenon can drive different outcomes, some of which may be very bad, some of which may be of limited scope, and some of which may be good. Is somebody going to disagree?