> Most of them though just clutter up companies with people who can't think all that creatively and are way more interested in their next game of Ultimate or th

> Most of them though just clutter up companies with people who can't think all that creatively and are way more interested in their next game of Ultimate or the new bar they're trying tonight than learning a new language or exploring technology. Welcome to being just like every other profession out there. Most people don't like talking about work when they're not on the job. Honestly, the "you can't have a life outside work" attitude is far more toxic to our profession than any kind of "brogrammers". I remember someone on HN saying they like living in SV because they can go to a bar and end up talking about JavaScript frameworks with some random stranger there. That just horrifies me--the last thing I want to do when I'm relaxing after work is to talk shop! (and, to be fair, there were a number of comments replying to them expressing the same sentiment)