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> wouldn't normally care to weigh in on Thiel, but his supporters keep using the phrase "he helped fund a legitimate lawsuit" as though that has anything to do
by internaut 10y ago
> wouldn't normally care to weigh in on Thiel, but his supporters keep using the phrase "he helped fund a legitimate lawsuit" as though that has anything to do with Thiel's motivation or the end result.
Probably part of it is because the judge agreed with Thiel's motivation. It was also appealed and thrown out of court. The fine was surely intended to bankrupt the company. Something judges do have the power to do.
To be honest I don't think even Thiel thought Gawker would fuck up its own defense this badly. They were pressing all the wrong buttons. I'm sure you've heard how the trial went.
> I don't think billionaires should be able to use money and the courts to shut down speech they don't like.
In this specific court case the speech was outright illegal even before they defied a court order.
In the general case that is up for a far ranging debate. My two cents are that it is extremely likely Gawker was/is working for a covert political organization (like how Salon* is also), as such it is a PR firm masquerading as journalism. The only question I have in my mind is whether Denton is aware of being co-opted. He must surely have realized something was up recently. I won't spell it out here but if you do some google searches you shall see some interesting things.
If you are a popular media organization with a poor or non-existent profit stream but readily available capital from nowhere for many years then you might find yourself in a spot of political trouble.
* From their wiki: Salon has been unprofitable through its entire history. Since 2007, the company has been dependent on ongoing cash injections from board Chairman John Warnock and William Hambrecht, father of former Salon CEO Elizabeth Hambrecht.
- ch4s3 10y ago>In the general case that is up for a far ranging debate That's my point basically. Even if Gawker isn't a "real" news organization, and they probably aren't, I still think this sets bad a precedent. What's to stop him from targeting a real news organization next?
- internaut 10y agoIf you mean him in particular, probably that he has strong moral convictions about right and wrong. I don't know the man personally but I've been examining his ideas with their percolations (e.g. mimesis, exits) and their interesting offshoots for several years now and although some people may suppose him contradictory this would be a very superficial reading. Being idiosyncratic is not the same thing as being a hypocrite. He is not about to stomp on people's freedom of speech merely because he disagrees with those people and/or their politics. That would be in fact an antipathy to him. That he considers aiding the takedown of Gawker as a philanthropic move is unsurprising to me and not a form of sarcasm as some suppose. As for billionaires subverting the media generally, let's just say that if we assume Thiel did subvert the media for nefarious purposes he would be but a minnow in an ocean packed to the gills with sharks already eating each other. Eons before, you know, that minnow was hatched or whatever. I mean there are people literally killing each other out there over nothing. Perspective!