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That's "HyperTerminal" not "HyperTerm".

by sigzero 10y ago

Jtsummers 10y ago
A very similar name for a product sitting in the same space (terminal emulator). That's generally an unwise decision as it can create confusion for both projects, and the one with the trademark (especially since this new one's name is a substring of the older project) is in a position to make a valid claim against the new project. If someone created a new project called Steem to deliver video games to end users[, would you] be surprised if Valve took issue with their choice of name? EDIT: Left out part of a sentence.
- digler999 10y ago
  > if Valve took issue isn't it true that companies have to take issue, otherwise they lose their trademark? I used to be angry when large corporations would sue a little guy or nonprofit over name squabbles, but then I heard that the big company can lose their trademark if they dont.
  - Jtsummers 10y ago
    That's my understanding as well, yes.
  - zyxley 10y ago
    For an example of this happening, "Aspirin" was originally a Bayer trademark registered in 1897.
  - HeavyStorm 10y ago
    I probably heard the same thing as you. With the whole Scrolls fiasco, I think. Someone explained Bethesda had to go after Mojang.
evanelias 10y ago
HyperTerminal was commonly referred to as "HyperTerm" in the BBS community, probably because the executable was hypertrm.exe. Also possibly because most other dial-up terminal emulators had names ending in "Term". The free version was bundled with Windows for 10+ years, and although it wasn't a particularly great terminal, its ubiquity came in handy when trying to bring new people into the bulletin board system world.
jsnathan 10y ago
Anyone remember this? > On February 20, 2004, the developers of wxWindows announced that the project was changing its name to wxWidgets, as a result of Microsoft requesting Julian Smart to respect Microsoft's United Kingdom trademark of the term Windows. [1] That being said, I think if MS doesn't ask them to change it, there isn't much to worry about. "wxWindows" was originally started in 1992. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets
- CamperBob2 10y ago
  IIRC, Microsoft licensed Hyperterminal from a company called Hilgraeve (sp?). It was never an official part of Windows, although IMHO it should have been. Regardless of who owns/owned the trademarks in whatever countries, it's not appropriate to reuse the name. It will lead to unnecessary confusion. Bad call, even if no lawyers get involved.

That's "HyperTerminal" not "HyperTerm".

by sigzero 10y ago

That's "HyperTerminal" not "HyperTerm".

A very similar name for a product sitting in the same space (terminal emulator). That's generally an unwise decision as it can create confusion for both projects, and the one with the trademark (especially since this new one's name is a substring of the older project) is in a position to make a valid claim against the new project. If someone created a new project called Steem to deliver video games to end users[, would you] be surprised if Valve took issue with their choice of name? EDIT: Left out part of a sentence.

digler999 10y ago
> if Valve took issue isn't it true that companies have to take issue, otherwise they lose their trademark? I used to be angry when large corporations would sue a little guy or nonprofit over name squabbles, but then I heard that the big company can lose their trademark if they dont.
- Jtsummers 10y ago
  That's my understanding as well, yes.
- zyxley 10y ago
  For an example of this happening, "Aspirin" was originally a Bayer trademark registered in 1897.
- HeavyStorm 10y ago
  I probably heard the same thing as you. With the whole Scrolls fiasco, I think. Someone explained Bethesda had to go after Mojang.

evanelias 10y ago

HyperTerminal was commonly referred to as "HyperTerm" in the BBS community, probably because the executable was hypertrm.exe. Also possibly because most other dial-up terminal emulators had names ending in "Term". The free version was bundled with Windows for 10+ years, and although it wasn't a particularly great terminal, its ubiquity came in handy when trying to bring new people into the bulletin board system world.

jsnathan 10y ago

Anyone remember this? > On February 20, 2004, the developers of wxWindows announced that the project was changing its name to wxWidgets, as a result of Microsoft requesting Julian Smart to respect Microsoft's United Kingdom trademark of the term Windows. [1] That being said, I think if MS doesn't ask them to change it, there isn't much to worry about. "wxWindows" was originally started in 1992. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets

CamperBob2 10y ago
IIRC, Microsoft licensed Hyperterminal from a company called Hilgraeve (sp?). It was never an official part of Windows, although IMHO it should have been. Regardless of who owns/owned the trademarks in whatever countries, it's not appropriate to reuse the name. It will lead to unnecessary confusion. Bad call, even if no lawyers get involved.