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Some statistics helpful to put the numbers in the article in context: * Percent of San Francisco MSA that is black: 7.9% * Percent of Atlanta MSA that is blac

by scott00 10y ago

Some statistics helpful to put the numbers in the article in context: * Percent of San Francisco MSA that is black: 7.9% * Percent of Atlanta MSA that is black: 32.8% * Percent of college graduates that are black: 10.0% * Percent of CS college graduates that are black: 11.5% * Percent of engineering graduates that are black: 4.45% Sources: http://www.directemployers.org/2012/08/16/the-college-class-of-2013-current-demographics/ http://www.directemployers.org/2012/08/16/the-college-class-... http://factfinder.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/ACS/12_1YR/CP05/310M100US12060|310M100US41860 http://factfinder.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/ACS/12_1YR/CP...

fwadfka 10y ago
> * Percent of CS college graduates that are black: 11.5% The number I got for 2015 was 2.5% (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868) One of the key sources of this difference is whether you count "Information" degrees as CS. My number doesn't include information degrees and yours does.
- scott00 10y ago
  That's definitely an interesting difference. Do you think excluding Information degrees results in a more relevant number? If so, why?
  - fwadfka 10y ago
    People with CS degrees tend to be the ones building new software. Information degrees vary a lot, but tend to have decreased math requirements and be more focused on the application of technology. As a software engineer working in the bay area, I have seen hundreds of engineers with CS degrees and zero engineers with information degrees - in my experience there is a stark difference, and I would be surprised and interested if the data showed otherwise.
    - MollyR 10y ago
      Just to add an anecdote, Most of the companies I've worked for screen out non CS degree's except for exceptional portfolios. Not sure how wide spread this is.

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Some statistics helpful to put the numbers in the article in context: * Percent of San Francisco MSA that is black: 7.9% * Percent of Atlanta MSA that is blac

by scott00 10y ago

fwadfka 10y ago
> * Percent of CS college graduates that are black: 11.5% The number I got for 2015 was 2.5% (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868) One of the key sources of this difference is whether you count "Information" degrees as CS. My number doesn't include information degrees and yours does.
- scott00 10y ago
  That's definitely an interesting difference. Do you think excluding Information degrees results in a more relevant number? If so, why?
  - fwadfka 10y ago
    People with CS degrees tend to be the ones building new software. Information degrees vary a lot, but tend to have decreased math requirements and be more focused on the application of technology. As a software engineer working in the bay area, I have seen hundreds of engineers with CS degrees and zero engineers with information degrees - in my experience there is a stark difference, and I would be surprised and interested if the data showed otherwise.
    - MollyR 10y ago
      Just to add an anecdote, Most of the companies I've worked for screen out non CS degree's except for exceptional portfolios. Not sure how wide spread this is.