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Over time, I imagine this will self-correct. For the last decade or so the popular thing has been to copy Google's interviewing/hiring process because everyone

by rco8786 10y ago

Over time, I imagine this will self-correct. For the last decade or so the popular thing has been to copy Google's interviewing/hiring process because everyone wanted to be Google(in terms of engineering notoriety, not product/industry). It seems like that is beginning to fade out of popularity a bit though.

dominotw 10y ago
>It seems like that is beginning to fade out of popularity a bit though. I've been interviewing for last 2 months. And every single company regardless of their size/location/industry had the same exact process. Phone Screen->coding exercise->interview street quiz -> whiteboard,bigO onsite interview.
- sanderjd 10y ago
  I remember when take-home projects and then online in-your-own-time exercises started becoming popular, and it's unbelievable that people now seem to be doing them in addition to the whiteboard sessions that we all agreed were crappy and trying to figure out how to replace! We really seem to be in a strange spiral where people are complaining ever more loudly that it's hard to find developers, clamoring for trade schools and public education to create more supply, while simultaneously consistently making it harder and more soul-crushingly irritating for qualified people to actually get a job. What's going on here??
  - dominotw 10y ago
    yea its hard to find a job these days without massive time investment. Coding exercises I've been doing are typically 4 hrs or more (example: https://mesosphere.com/careers/challenges/distributed-applications/ https://mesosphere.com/careers/challenges/distributed-applic...), phone coding screen is 1-2 hrs, interviewstreet is 1 hr. So you are looking at 7-8 hrs for single application. Then comes 2-3 days time sink if you have to fly out to different city for onsite interview. I can't imagine people with kids/family/parents to take care of devoting this insane amout of time. Some of them like Amazon don't even respond to you with the results if you fail( assuming) their online quizzes. I have like over a decade of experience and have 3 github code projects with over 1000 stars. But I have a feeling that companies are getting so many resumes that they don't even want to look at your resume before you have been screened. Its almost impossible to switch jobs these days without massive time investment, unless you are some sort of super star that can somehow short-circuit this process.

by rco8786 10y ago

dominotw 10y ago

>It seems like that is beginning to fade out of popularity a bit though. I've been interviewing for last 2 months. And every single company regardless of their size/location/industry had the same exact process. Phone Screen->coding exercise->interview street quiz -> whiteboard,bigO onsite interview.

sanderjd 10y ago
I remember when take-home projects and then online in-your-own-time exercises started becoming popular, and it's unbelievable that people now seem to be doing them in addition to the whiteboard sessions that we all agreed were crappy and trying to figure out how to replace! We really seem to be in a strange spiral where people are complaining ever more loudly that it's hard to find developers, clamoring for trade schools and public education to create more supply, while simultaneously consistently making it harder and more soul-crushingly irritating for qualified people to actually get a job. What's going on here??
- dominotw 10y ago
  yea its hard to find a job these days without massive time investment. Coding exercises I've been doing are typically 4 hrs or more (example: https://mesosphere.com/careers/challenges/distributed-applications/ https://mesosphere.com/careers/challenges/distributed-applic...), phone coding screen is 1-2 hrs, interviewstreet is 1 hr. So you are looking at 7-8 hrs for single application. Then comes 2-3 days time sink if you have to fly out to different city for onsite interview. I can't imagine people with kids/family/parents to take care of devoting this insane amout of time. Some of them like Amazon don't even respond to you with the results if you fail( assuming) their online quizzes. I have like over a decade of experience and have 3 github code projects with over 1000 stars. But I have a feeling that companies are getting so many resumes that they don't even want to look at your resume before you have been screened. Its almost impossible to switch jobs these days without massive time investment, unless you are some sort of super star that can somehow short-circuit this process.