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Geez. Americans do not realize how lucky they got with Obama.

djschnei 10y ago
I, for one, have loved the slow and steady erosion of my civil liberties. Not to mention the endless wars, abysmal GDP growth, and continued centralization and bolstering of federal power. He's the best!
- hfourm 10y ago
  Hey aside from the GDP growth, you should realize that all of these have been going on for the past 40 years at least. Hell, since ww2
  - djschnei 10y ago
    Totally agree and very understood. He is at the very least compliant with business as usual and I hardly feel lucky.
    - unfathomable 10y ago
      Slow gradual decline.
      - cpncrunch 10y ago
        There's not any actual evidence of sluggish GDP growth, it's really just anti-Obama pundits, like this guy: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-first-president-ever-not-see-single-year-3-gdp/ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-f... Have a look here: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-annual http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-ann... choose "trend line". You'll see that 2015/2016 GDP growth is precisely on the trend line. The main difference in the last 8 years is more stable GDP growth, rather than the extreme peaks and troughs of the previous 60 years. I live in Canada and don't have a dog in this race, but I find it interesting that Americans are so obvlivious of the facts and willing to believe at face value all the BS that comes out of the likes of Trump.
        unfathomable 10y ago
        "The call of blood, history, faith, culture and memory is winning the struggle against Economism, the Western materialist ideology that holds that the desire for money and things is what ultimately motivates mankind."
  - njkanjsd 10y ago
    Nah, he probably 'shouldn't' since history, economics, politics, and critical thinking are not taught in American schools and most universities.
- cpncrunch 10y ago
  Unemployment sharply reduced, iraq and afghanistan wars ended, guantanamo in the process of being closed, torture ended. Some people are just never happy. Americans dont deserve him.
  - bobwaycott 10y ago
    Gitmo is not closed.
    - cpncrunch 10y ago
      fixed.
  - djschnei 10y ago
    "Unemployment sharply reduced": you and I both know that is nonsense. The way unemployment is measured is completely illogical. "Iraq and Afghanistan wars ended": He's continued to murder literally hundreds of people with his drone strikes. He is the opposite of a peaceful president. "In the process of being closed": haha. He signed the NDAA. It is now harder to close than ever. "Torture ended": Not really[1]. [1]:http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/has-obama-banned-torture-yes-and-no.html http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/has-obama-bann...
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      > "Unemployment sharply reduced": you and I both know that is nonsense. The way unemployment is measured is completely illogical. I disagree. Both the primary and alternative official measures of labor force underutilization are logical; each of them may sometimes be referenced in situations where the particular measure referenced is not the most appropriate measure, but those are illogical uses of the measures, not signs that the measures themselves are illogical. If you think that there is a more appropriate measure relevant to this context that shows the opposite of what was contended, then you should present it at be prepared to defend your position that it is a more appropriate measure.
      - 10y ago
- ende 10y ago
  Presidents have about as much influence on the economy as they do the weather. That's especially true in this modern globalized age. Nobody is in control. The global economy is not controllable, even if a concerted will to do so existed. On issues of civil liberties, national security + surveillance, and a growing police state, Obama has been similar if not worse than the previous regime.
  - djschnei 10y ago
    Then the federal government should stop attempting to control it... That is literally my gripe. The Fed and things like QE (ignoring regulation all together) have been extremely harmful. He has done nothing but perpetuate the nonsense. On your second point; that is extremely subjective. But even still, that should make me feel lucky?!
krapp 10y ago
I'm looking forward to seeing the "Miss me yet?" billboards with Obama's face on them...

I, for one, have loved the slow and steady erosion of my civil liberties. Not to mention the endless wars, abysmal GDP growth, and continued centralization and bolstering of federal power. He's the best!

hfourm 10y ago
Hey aside from the GDP growth, you should realize that all of these have been going on for the past 40 years at least. Hell, since ww2
- djschnei 10y ago
  Totally agree and very understood. He is at the very least compliant with business as usual and I hardly feel lucky.
  - unfathomable 10y ago
    Slow gradual decline.
    - cpncrunch 10y ago
      There's not any actual evidence of sluggish GDP growth, it's really just anti-Obama pundits, like this guy: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-first-president-ever-not-see-single-year-3-gdp/ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-f... Have a look here: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-annual http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-ann... choose "trend line". You'll see that 2015/2016 GDP growth is precisely on the trend line. The main difference in the last 8 years is more stable GDP growth, rather than the extreme peaks and troughs of the previous 60 years. I live in Canada and don't have a dog in this race, but I find it interesting that Americans are so obvlivious of the facts and willing to believe at face value all the BS that comes out of the likes of Trump.
      - unfathomable 10y ago
        "The call of blood, history, faith, culture and memory is winning the struggle against Economism, the Western materialist ideology that holds that the desire for money and things is what ultimately motivates mankind."
- njkanjsd 10y ago
  Nah, he probably 'shouldn't' since history, economics, politics, and critical thinking are not taught in American schools and most universities.
cpncrunch 10y ago
Unemployment sharply reduced, iraq and afghanistan wars ended, guantanamo in the process of being closed, torture ended. Some people are just never happy. Americans dont deserve him.
- bobwaycott 10y ago
  Gitmo is not closed.
  - cpncrunch 10y ago
    fixed.
- djschnei 10y ago
  "Unemployment sharply reduced": you and I both know that is nonsense. The way unemployment is measured is completely illogical. "Iraq and Afghanistan wars ended": He's continued to murder literally hundreds of people with his drone strikes. He is the opposite of a peaceful president. "In the process of being closed": haha. He signed the NDAA. It is now harder to close than ever. "Torture ended": Not really[1]. [1]:http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/has-obama-banned-torture-yes-and-no.html http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/has-obama-bann...
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > "Unemployment sharply reduced": you and I both know that is nonsense. The way unemployment is measured is completely illogical. I disagree. Both the primary and alternative official measures of labor force underutilization are logical; each of them may sometimes be referenced in situations where the particular measure referenced is not the most appropriate measure, but those are illogical uses of the measures, not signs that the measures themselves are illogical. If you think that there is a more appropriate measure relevant to this context that shows the opposite of what was contended, then you should present it at be prepared to defend your position that it is a more appropriate measure.
    - 10y ago
ende 10y ago
Presidents have about as much influence on the economy as they do the weather. That's especially true in this modern globalized age. Nobody is in control. The global economy is not controllable, even if a concerted will to do so existed. On issues of civil liberties, national security + surveillance, and a growing police state, Obama has been similar if not worse than the previous regime.
- djschnei 10y ago
  Then the federal government should stop attempting to control it... That is literally my gripe. The Fed and things like QE (ignoring regulation all together) have been extremely harmful. He has done nothing but perpetuate the nonsense. On your second point; that is extremely subjective. But even still, that should make me feel lucky?!

krapp 10y ago

I'm looking forward to seeing the "Miss me yet?" billboards with Obama's face on them...