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No, it's directly Geneva Convention. There are some EU specific things, like the country of entry is responsible to handle the refugee status application, and t

No, it's directly Geneva Convention. There are some EU specific things, like the country of entry is responsible to handle the refugee status application, and the European Court Of Human rights is merciless with States giving in to their instincts on refugees, but the base principles are linked to the big treaties on war.

roel_v 10y ago
"and the European Court Of Human rights is merciless with States giving in to their instincts on refugees" Not disagreeing with you, just clarifying: the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU, and AFAIK there is no intention of Britain leaving the Council of Europe (essentially, complaints can be brought to the ECHR against members of the CoE).
- tremon 10y ago
  AFAIK there is no intention of Britain leaving the Council of Europe Britain's new PM seems to have that intent: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-theresa-may-eu-referendum http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leav...
- andyjohnson0 10y ago
  Theresa May (new UK Prime Minister) has unfortunately been very clear about her desire to leave the European Convention on Human Rights [1] though not afaik the Council of Europe. The Europhobic wing on the Conservative Party may be satisfied with just leaving the EU, or they may not, but I suspect the idea of abrogating the treaty will reappear at some point post-Brexit. (Just to be clear: I profoundly disagree with her on this.) [1] http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-theresa-may-eu-referendum http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leav...
  - matthewmacleod 10y ago
    While I agree with this, I would point out that she explicitly ruled out moving forward with this policy as prime minister.
    - Spearchucker 10y ago
      What people say is no guarantee for what they may end up doing. Doubly so for politicians. Brexit was a stark and recent example.
cabalamat 10y ago
> European Court Of Human rights is merciless with States giving in to their instincts on refugees Is it? Do you have examples?

roel_v 10y ago

"and the European Court Of Human rights is merciless with States giving in to their instincts on refugees" Not disagreeing with you, just clarifying: the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU, and AFAIK there is no intention of Britain leaving the Council of Europe (essentially, complaints can be brought to the ECHR against members of the CoE).

tremon 10y ago
AFAIK there is no intention of Britain leaving the Council of Europe Britain's new PM seems to have that intent: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-theresa-may-eu-referendum http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leav...
andyjohnson0 10y ago
Theresa May (new UK Prime Minister) has unfortunately been very clear about her desire to leave the European Convention on Human Rights [1] though not afaik the Council of Europe. The Europhobic wing on the Conservative Party may be satisfied with just leaving the EU, or they may not, but I suspect the idea of abrogating the treaty will reappear at some point post-Brexit. (Just to be clear: I profoundly disagree with her on this.) [1] http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-theresa-may-eu-referendum http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leav...
- matthewmacleod 10y ago
  While I agree with this, I would point out that she explicitly ruled out moving forward with this policy as prime minister.
  - Spearchucker 10y ago
    What people say is no guarantee for what they may end up doing. Doubly so for politicians. Brexit was a stark and recent example.

cabalamat 10y ago

> European Court Of Human rights is merciless with States giving in to their instincts on refugees Is it? Do you have examples?