I am constructing an absurd argument. I mostly want to see the people who implemented torture against suspected enemies the start to try to justify its true eff

I am constructing an absurd argument. I mostly want to see the people who implemented torture against suspected enemies the start to try to justify its true effectiveness. It is possible to extract information through torture. The question is how much, and how reliable is it? And most importantly, is it more effective than other non-torture methods? The human mind is an incredible bullshit machine, and merely applying pain to it is no guarantee to get the truth out. I suspect tortue isn't more effective than other methods, and I personally am not willing to run the experiment on my in-group to find out. I want to torturers in our government to fully come to grips with their own mortality (or lack thereof). And be prosecuted.