> Both arrive in similar places, but usually for different reasons. Kind of how I take philosophers/scientists to be (and other dichotomies that are variations

> Both arrive in similar places, but usually for different reasons. Kind of how I take philosophers/scientists to be (and other dichotomies that are variations on that kind of pattern). There's a funny [and highly paraphrased] quote I use from Heinz von Foerster that I think is highly relevant: "The reductionist eventually comes to know everything about nothing (by way of distinction) - the wholist eventually comes to know nothing about everything (by way of generalization)."