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For another laugh, try https://blog.expensify.com/2016/06/17/expensifys-comp-review-process/ https://blog.expensify.com/2016/06/17/expensifys-comp-review.... Th

For another laugh, try https://blog.expensify.com/2016/06/17/expensifys-comp-review-process/ https://blog.expensify.com/2016/06/17/expensifys-comp-review.... This quotation sums up both the pretentiousness and the bullshit nicely: > We don’t negotiate during the hiring process. Our first offer is our last and best offer. If it’s basically in the right ballpark, then we encourage you to take it and we’ll adjust it later if we were off. But if we’re so far off that we’re not in the right ballpark, then clearly this isn’t going to work anyway. There’s no need to fight over a few percent: let’s just get started and adjust later. Apparently they'd like to hire "10x engineers" (lol), but not quite enough to actually talk with them to determine a mutually beneficial compensation scheme. Their offer is the fair one, and a counter-offer is the engineer quibbling over a couple percent. If that's the case, why can't that few percent go the engineer's way? Nice to see that they've resolved the problem in their favor. If a prospective employer gave me a non-negotiable offer and refused to countenance alternatives, I'd run far, far away from that paternalistic prison, no matter the offer or company.

greenyoda 10y ago
And yet another post from their blog - the ignorance expressed in this article is pretty amazing: "Why we don’t hire .NET programmers" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2370022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2370022 "Programming with .NET is like cooking in a McDonalds kitchen. It is full of amazing tools that automate absolutely everything. Just press the right button and follow the beeping lights, and you can churn out flawless 1.6 oz burgers faster than anybody else on the planet. However, if you need to make a 1.7 oz burger, you simply can’t. There’s no button for it."
flaviusb 10y ago
In some places, non-negotiable offers are pretty standard. Eg programming jobs in New Zealand - many hiring managers would rather kill themselves then pay more than whatever they have already decided to pay a programmer. Or negotiation will happen, but then the number on the contract will mysteriously not change, and if you complain about it you will be told that it can't be fixed now, just sign it and accept the offer and they will totally correct the number, just not right now. And once you have signed, well, verbal contracts always defer to written contracts in NZ, so it never gets fixed. There are some amazing things about NZ, but the job market as a programmer is not one of them.

greenyoda 10y ago

And yet another post from their blog - the ignorance expressed in this article is pretty amazing: "Why we don’t hire .NET programmers" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2370022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2370022 "Programming with .NET is like cooking in a McDonalds kitchen. It is full of amazing tools that automate absolutely everything. Just press the right button and follow the beeping lights, and you can churn out flawless 1.6 oz burgers faster than anybody else on the planet. However, if you need to make a 1.7 oz burger, you simply can’t. There’s no button for it."

flaviusb 10y ago

In some places, non-negotiable offers are pretty standard. Eg programming jobs in New Zealand - many hiring managers would rather kill themselves then pay more than whatever they have already decided to pay a programmer. Or negotiation will happen, but then the number on the contract will mysteriously not change, and if you complain about it you will be told that it can't be fixed now, just sign it and accept the offer and they will totally correct the number, just not right now. And once you have signed, well, verbal contracts always defer to written contracts in NZ, so it never gets fixed. There are some amazing things about NZ, but the job market as a programmer is not one of them.