That is why I said, "and to some extent, Germany". Also, German health care might be expensive but it's always affordable since it scales with your income. It'

That is why I said, "and to some extent, Germany". Also, German health care might be expensive but it's always affordable since it scales with your income. It's also still cheaper than the US. Source: I live in Germany and pay the maximum for my health care, which is around $900 US a month. This covers my entire family, and there are practically 0 co-pays, deductibles, or arguing with the insurance company. Before that, while I was boot strapping my startup and making 0 money, my health insurance was super super cheap.