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Facebook just publicly said they will not censor these videos.

herbst 10y ago
They did censure completely unreasoned before and lied several times about different relevant things, who cares what they say now. Also please source if you make such claims. Edit:// They are also breaking the law constantly (Their terms are not valid in many parts of europe, they still enforce it, they do not hand over complete data when asked (tried several times) and they also do not remove accounts when removed), so seriously who cares what they claim?
- mickmock 10y ago
  > They did censure completely unreasoned before and lied several times about different relevant things, who cares what they say now. Please source if you make such claims
  - herbst 10y ago
    I expected this :) > did censure completely unreasoned recent one: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/07/08/did-police-remove-the-facebook-live-video-of-philando-castile-be/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/07/08/did-police-... big ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#United_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany A few more cases here http://www.facebookcensorship.com/ http://www.facebookcensorship.com/ > lied several times * The oculus thing. http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/14/facebook-allegedly-lied-about-not-paying-devs-for-oculus-exclusivity/ http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/14/facebook-allegedly-l... * PRISM may be something a lot remember: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337863/PRISM-Google-Facebook-DID-allow-NSA-access-data-talks-set-spying-rooms-despite-denials-Zuckerberg-Page-controversial-project.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337863/PRISM-Google... to that also zucks statement: https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631 https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631 plus some actual numbers: https://govtrequests.facebook.com/country/United%20States/2015-H2/ https://govtrequests.facebook.com/country/United%20States/20... * There may is more, but probably they didnt lie that often like i made it sound. Its way easier to find articles about situations where facebook forgot to mention relevant details, other than lying.
    - tedunangst 10y ago
      > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany > In July 2011, authorities in Germany began to discuss the prohibition of events organized on Facebook. Wait, your evidence that Facebook engages in censorship includes the fact that the authorities discussed it?
      - herbst 10y ago
        Agreed its written a little distanced on wikipedia. I cant really find english media reporting about it tho. http://www.neopresse.com/politik/dach/bertelsmann-facebook-hass-postings-fluechtlinge-bundesrergierung-zensur-loeschen/ http://www.neopresse.com/politik/dach/bertelsmann-facebook-h... Maybe this one, but they make it sound rather reasonable https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-springs-to-action-over-hate-speech-against-migrants/2016/01/06/6031218e-b315-11e5-8abc-d09392edc612_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-springs-... Still facebook is not required to do this, they complied to censor after will of a private(?) germany agency.

They did censure completely unreasoned before and lied several times about different relevant things, who cares what they say now. Also please source if you make such claims. Edit:// They are also breaking the law constantly (Their terms are not valid in many parts of europe, they still enforce it, they do not hand over complete data when asked (tried several times) and they also do not remove accounts when removed), so seriously who cares what they claim?

mickmock 10y ago
> They did censure completely unreasoned before and lied several times about different relevant things, who cares what they say now. Please source if you make such claims
- herbst 10y ago
  I expected this :) > did censure completely unreasoned recent one: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/07/08/did-police-remove-the-facebook-live-video-of-philando-castile-be/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/07/08/did-police-... big ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#United_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany A few more cases here http://www.facebookcensorship.com/ http://www.facebookcensorship.com/ > lied several times * The oculus thing. http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/14/facebook-allegedly-lied-about-not-paying-devs-for-oculus-exclusivity/ http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/14/facebook-allegedly-l... * PRISM may be something a lot remember: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337863/PRISM-Google-Facebook-DID-allow-NSA-access-data-talks-set-spying-rooms-despite-denials-Zuckerberg-Page-controversial-project.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337863/PRISM-Google... to that also zucks statement: https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631 https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631 plus some actual numbers: https://govtrequests.facebook.com/country/United%20States/2015-H2/ https://govtrequests.facebook.com/country/United%20States/20... * There may is more, but probably they didnt lie that often like i made it sound. Its way easier to find articles about situations where facebook forgot to mention relevant details, other than lying.
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#Germany > In July 2011, authorities in Germany began to discuss the prohibition of events organized on Facebook. Wait, your evidence that Facebook engages in censorship includes the fact that the authorities discussed it?
    - herbst 10y ago
      Agreed its written a little distanced on wikipedia. I cant really find english media reporting about it tho. http://www.neopresse.com/politik/dach/bertelsmann-facebook-hass-postings-fluechtlinge-bundesrergierung-zensur-loeschen/ http://www.neopresse.com/politik/dach/bertelsmann-facebook-h... Maybe this one, but they make it sound rather reasonable https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-springs-to-action-over-hate-speech-against-migrants/2016/01/06/6031218e-b315-11e5-8abc-d09392edc612_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-springs-... Still facebook is not required to do this, they complied to censor after will of a private(?) germany agency.