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Starcraft Html5 project revived on GitHub without all copyrighted materials

150 points by gloomyson 10y ago

roschdal 10y ago
As a HTML5-developer, how can I best contribute to this Stracraft project? I would recommend changing the project name from Starcraft-Js to something else, to prevent legal problems with the commercial version. I hope this HTML5 game will be as great as https://play.freeciv.org https://play.freeciv.org one day
- tracker1 10y ago
  As for contribution, would grab/adapt artwork from open gaming projects, and apply them as necessary to get this actual game working.
Vervious 10y ago
The link to play seems to be down :(
tudelo 10y ago
I was thinking about a game like starcraft in the browser... I wonder how hard it would be to make the game (or any game of this style) feel smooth and be an html5 game.. Does anyone have any examples of a html5 rts that is good?
- wwarren 10y ago
  http://www.feudalwars.net/ http://www.feudalwars.net/
- Can_Not 10y ago
  Are you thinking 1v1..4v4 or 20..2000+ concurrent players per map? I think this is very achievable with 2D graphics, but the market is dominated by games that are extremely simplified and encourage co-op, so straight up RTS would be awesome.
  - tudelo 10y ago
    1v1 as a main focus. with 2v2+ and FFA optional fun modes.
- IsmaOlvey 10y ago
  Littlewargame is decent: http://www.littlewargame.com/play/ http://www.littlewargame.com/play/
- intruder 10y ago
  This is not quite what you're asking, but some guys are working on making SC/BW more accessible, modern (matchmaking, better chat support): https://www.shieldbattery.net/splash https://www.shieldbattery.net/splash
- blahi 10y ago
  Day9 got hired for a company that was working on this. Duno what happened.
  - arkem 10y ago
    Artillery is in testing at the moment and has landed a publishing deal with Tencent (along with an investment): http://blog.artillery.com/ http://blog.artillery.com/
NTripleOne 10y ago
This is super neat, I hope to see more stuff ported to HTML5 in the future.
zamalek 10y ago
Technically true, but that name is still trademarked. Considering that this ultimately affects Blizzard's bottom line, I can't see them being nice about this.
- scotty79 10y ago
  > Considering that this ultimately affects Blizzard's bottom line How exactly?
  - zamalek 10y ago
    Firstly, non-enforcement of trademarks results in losing said trademarks. I've been downvoted more than once around here for saying that, so here's a citation[1]: > Trademark rights may also be lost when a trademark owner fails effectively to police its mark against eroded distinctiveness, which may occur as a result of the presence of confusingly similar third-party marks in the market. Secondly, why pay for Starcraft when I can just play Starcraft-JS for free? Although I'm completely on-board with Startcraft-JS, I strongly doubt that Blizzard will react well to it. [1]: http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/LossofTrademarkRightsFactSheet.aspx http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/LossofT...
    - Nullabillity 10y ago
      > Secondly, why pay for Starcraft when I can just play Starcraft-JS for free? Well, presumably (some of) that money goes somewhere else than Kotick's pockets. If they can't compete properly then isn't that the market working as intended?
      - zamalek 10y ago
        It doesn't matter how the market should behave (I agree with you about free competition), the reality is that Blizzard owns the trademark and there are legal processes surrounding that. They can compete, just not with the same trademarked name or, as previously, copyrighted materials. I'm not referring to how things should work, rather how they actually work.
degenerate 10y ago
"Extract original resources from starcraft and add into bgm&img folder" Can this be elaborated a bit? I grabbed an MPQ Editor but none of the 'original' files in the MPQ match names referenced in the JS files. For example, Buildings.js references bgm/ProtossBuilding.selected.wav but the sound file in the MPQ is just a string of letters; I'd have to rename each audio file myself...
- gloomyson 10y ago
  I've made many changes on the raw resources, it seems a mission impossible for you to make all the resources needed to play, unless you kept those resource files I released last year
akst 10y ago
looks like it's in a unplayable state though... Following the instructions in the read me results in the game failing to load, due to most of the resources being deleted...
gloomyson 10y ago
Thanks guys, if you find there's still copyrighted files remaining, please tell me to delete it.
snvzz 10y ago
Dejavu? No, there was Freecraft, now Stratagus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratagus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratagus
tonmoy 10y ago
GameRule/Cheat.js was an interesting read
themihai 10y ago
The demo link doesn't work
- gloomyson 10y ago
  Sorry, now the website load seems too heavy for my web server
lunchTime42 10y ago
May i use this chance to promote some free alternatives to Still-cloned-Star-Craft: http://www.istrolid.com/game.html http://www.istrolid.com/game.html
whamlastxmas 10y ago
Disappointed, thought headline meant they replaced all the copyrighted art assets with fan-made open source ones. Won't run without original assets from SC install.

150 points by gloomyson 10y ago

As a HTML5-developer, how can I best contribute to this Stracraft project? I would recommend changing the project name from Starcraft-Js to something else, to prevent legal problems with the commercial version. I hope this HTML5 game will be as great as https://play.freeciv.org https://play.freeciv.org one day

tracker1 10y ago
As for contribution, would grab/adapt artwork from open gaming projects, and apply them as necessary to get this actual game working.

Vervious 10y ago

The link to play seems to be down :(

tudelo 10y ago

I was thinking about a game like starcraft in the browser... I wonder how hard it would be to make the game (or any game of this style) feel smooth and be an html5 game.. Does anyone have any examples of a html5 rts that is good?

wwarren 10y ago
http://www.feudalwars.net/ http://www.feudalwars.net/
Can_Not 10y ago
Are you thinking 1v1..4v4 or 20..2000+ concurrent players per map? I think this is very achievable with 2D graphics, but the market is dominated by games that are extremely simplified and encourage co-op, so straight up RTS would be awesome.
- tudelo 10y ago
  1v1 as a main focus. with 2v2+ and FFA optional fun modes.
IsmaOlvey 10y ago
Littlewargame is decent: http://www.littlewargame.com/play/ http://www.littlewargame.com/play/
intruder 10y ago
This is not quite what you're asking, but some guys are working on making SC/BW more accessible, modern (matchmaking, better chat support): https://www.shieldbattery.net/splash https://www.shieldbattery.net/splash
blahi 10y ago
Day9 got hired for a company that was working on this. Duno what happened.
- arkem 10y ago
  Artillery is in testing at the moment and has landed a publishing deal with Tencent (along with an investment): http://blog.artillery.com/ http://blog.artillery.com/

NTripleOne 10y ago

This is super neat, I hope to see more stuff ported to HTML5 in the future.

zamalek 10y ago

Technically true, but that name is still trademarked. Considering that this ultimately affects Blizzard's bottom line, I can't see them being nice about this.

scotty79 10y ago
> Considering that this ultimately affects Blizzard's bottom line How exactly?
- zamalek 10y ago
  Firstly, non-enforcement of trademarks results in losing said trademarks. I've been downvoted more than once around here for saying that, so here's a citation[1]: > Trademark rights may also be lost when a trademark owner fails effectively to police its mark against eroded distinctiveness, which may occur as a result of the presence of confusingly similar third-party marks in the market. Secondly, why pay for Starcraft when I can just play Starcraft-JS for free? Although I'm completely on-board with Startcraft-JS, I strongly doubt that Blizzard will react well to it. [1]: http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/LossofTrademarkRightsFactSheet.aspx http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/LossofT...
  - Nullabillity 10y ago
    > Secondly, why pay for Starcraft when I can just play Starcraft-JS for free? Well, presumably (some of) that money goes somewhere else than Kotick's pockets. If they can't compete properly then isn't that the market working as intended?
    - zamalek 10y ago
      It doesn't matter how the market should behave (I agree with you about free competition), the reality is that Blizzard owns the trademark and there are legal processes surrounding that. They can compete, just not with the same trademarked name or, as previously, copyrighted materials. I'm not referring to how things should work, rather how they actually work.

degenerate 10y ago

"Extract original resources from starcraft and add into bgm&img folder" Can this be elaborated a bit? I grabbed an MPQ Editor but none of the 'original' files in the MPQ match names referenced in the JS files. For example, Buildings.js references bgm/ProtossBuilding.selected.wav but the sound file in the MPQ is just a string of letters; I'd have to rename each audio file myself...

gloomyson 10y ago
I've made many changes on the raw resources, it seems a mission impossible for you to make all the resources needed to play, unless you kept those resource files I released last year

akst 10y ago

looks like it's in a unplayable state though... Following the instructions in the read me results in the game failing to load, due to most of the resources being deleted...

gloomyson 10y ago

Thanks guys, if you find there's still copyrighted files remaining, please tell me to delete it.

snvzz 10y ago

Dejavu? No, there was Freecraft, now Stratagus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratagus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratagus

tonmoy 10y ago

GameRule/Cheat.js was an interesting read

themihai 10y ago

The demo link doesn't work

gloomyson 10y ago
Sorry, now the website load seems too heavy for my web server

lunchTime42 10y ago

May i use this chance to promote some free alternatives to Still-cloned-Star-Craft: http://www.istrolid.com/game.html http://www.istrolid.com/game.html

whamlastxmas 10y ago

Disappointed, thought headline meant they replaced all the copyrighted art assets with fan-made open source ones. Won't run without original assets from SC install.