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So because we haven't created a law designating some group, defined by the consensual behavior they have in common, a protected class, it's morally okay to disc

by aminok 10y ago

So because we haven't created a law designating some group, defined by the consensual behavior they have in common, a protected class, it's morally okay to discriminate against them? Also, you mention "corporation's customers", so am I correct to assume that you ascribe to a moral system that sees anything that is associated with corporations as immoral and fair game for mistreatment and discrimination?

varjag 10y ago
I said "corporation's customers" because AirBNB is a corporation, don't read between the lines too hard. Protected classes are not arbitrary, in most cases they are groups of people who are not self-selected. You can't easily change your age or skin color, but it is trival to use booking.com instead of airbnb. Likening your right to party 0300 in an airbnb rental flat to civil rights movement is disingenuous.
- aminok 10y ago
  You didn't answer my question. If you believed your ideology was morally right, you would not shy away from directly answering questions about its values. Here's the question again: So because we haven't created a law designating some group, defined by the consensual behavior they have in common, a protected class, it's morally okay to discriminate against them?
  - varjag 10y ago
    I have to gently remind that am not a subordinate to you of any kind and don't have to keep up with your agenda. That said I'm entirely fine with corporations, their customers and free markets. It is not illegal to discriminate against a group not protected legally, and often even a moral thing to do. I discriminate against assholes all the time by not giving an equal weight to their opinion.
    - aminok 10y ago
      It is is not illegal to discriminate against them, but it is immoral. Renting someone else's property is not immoral. Threatening to rob (fine) or imprison someone for engaging in any kind of consensual transaction, including short term rental, is immoral.

by aminok 10y ago

varjag 10y ago

I said "corporation's customers" because AirBNB is a corporation, don't read between the lines too hard. Protected classes are not arbitrary, in most cases they are groups of people who are not self-selected. You can't easily change your age or skin color, but it is trival to use booking.com instead of airbnb. Likening your right to party 0300 in an airbnb rental flat to civil rights movement is disingenuous.

aminok 10y ago
You didn't answer my question. If you believed your ideology was morally right, you would not shy away from directly answering questions about its values. Here's the question again: So because we haven't created a law designating some group, defined by the consensual behavior they have in common, a protected class, it's morally okay to discriminate against them?
- varjag 10y ago
  I have to gently remind that am not a subordinate to you of any kind and don't have to keep up with your agenda. That said I'm entirely fine with corporations, their customers and free markets. It is not illegal to discriminate against a group not protected legally, and often even a moral thing to do. I discriminate against assholes all the time by not giving an equal weight to their opinion.
  - aminok 10y ago
    It is is not illegal to discriminate against them, but it is immoral. Renting someone else's property is not immoral. Threatening to rob (fine) or imprison someone for engaging in any kind of consensual transaction, including short term rental, is immoral.