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You can try Krita (www.krita.org) with PSD.
by dedosk 10y ago
You can try Krita (www.krita.org) with PSD.
- blub 10y agoGimp and Inkscape are the only free or open source graphics tools that have something resembling a secure download process. Krita serves their website over https and the download over http from some mirror. Can't find any trace of a hash on their site either.
- p4bl0 10y agoWhy don't you use your distribution's packages manager to install it?
- blub 10y agoA relative was using MS Paint to draw some simple floor plan diagrams and asked whether there's any better tool available. Gimp is actually overfeatured for what they need, but that was the only thing I found which I could install with a good enough certainty that I won't infect their computer with malware.
- kenoph 10y agoGimp is actually not that good for drawing. I guess that if simplicity is needed, Paint.NET (www.getpaint.net) is a good option. EDIT: I mean drawing geometrical stuff. Of course it's good for general drawing.
- blub 10y agoI strongly advise against Paint.NET. Besides the lack of download security they have huge "download" ads leading who knows where on the front page and a tiny download link. They are knowingly using this dark pattern to make ad money which is too bad, because as you say the app is really good.
- sp332 10y agoYou could install it with Ninite?
- Bromskloss 10y agoInkscape?
- blub 10y agoI ended up installing that too, but to be honest it's much too complicated and not exactly a good fit for floor plans. I just remembered that there's also Dia (diagram editor), I might give that one a try.
- Bromskloss 10y agoI'm afraid I don't see that Gimp is any more suitable. Far less, actually.
- thedaemon 10y agoKrita is not malware...
- expression 10y agoFWIW, files.kde.org does support HTTPS as well.
- boudewijnrempt 10y agoAnd if you press the details link you get all the info you could want: Filename: Krita-3.0-Alpha-master-e5109c2-x86_64.AppImage Size: 85M (88670208 bytes) Last modified: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 07:27:01 GMT (Unix time: 1460359621) SHA-256 Hash: 5d6574f750a188f67548d965ce6a8abd4d33479bc64f88130e545250e179a0e1 SHA-1 Hash: bf969c7ce56aac754eb84a2123caa9cbf4174884 MD5 Hash: ee0b82e82a98086dccad7f1344888a1c
- blub 10y agoThe hashes only seem to be visible over http (no details link over https).
- minitech 10y agofiles.kde.org is also accessible over HTTPS (but use a package manager if possible).
- imaginenore 10y agoWhile you're right, Krita publishes checksums for their downloads: https://krita.org/en/item/krita-3-0-released/ https://krita.org/en/item/krita-3-0-released/
- blub 10y agoThanks, but I don't understand why they would put them in the release announcement instead of the download page. Everyone wanting to download this software will head straight to the download link and won't jave time to hunt for blog posts. Also sha1 should be avoided nowadays, but at least it's not md5...
- Piskvorrr 10y agoGood enough for verifying integrity in transit ("the line didn't mangle any bits"). Without a side channel, that's all the hashes are good for (if someone can get a rogue version on a site, they can also change the hashes displayed on the same site).
- boudewijnrempt 10y agoWell, the reason is that I went crazy from people mailing me "what are those numbers? what should I do with them? They are scary!!!" We had to make the download page as simple as possible -- and I still get mails from people who cannot figure out how to download Krita. Several, per week.
- blub 10y agoIf you're the site maintainer please consider adding a link to the KDE https downloads or a link to the checksums somewhere on the download page, in the source code tab or even at the bottom.
- kiba 10y agoI would say you're overly paranoid, but I do fear one day clicking on the wrong site. That being said, we have to trust something.
- blub 10y agoI am not paranoid, the distribution security of most software projects is weak. It is feeble.
- Piskvorrr 10y agoWhen I need to install something on Windows (be it drivers or apps), I keep marvelling: the process has remained identically crude for two decades, all the way since Win95: download some executable from any old website, no verification possible (yeah, there's a MD5 hash - on that same website), and hope it won't screw up the system (or at least not too much; btw there's no clean way to uninstall). Repeat step for step for every package, manually clicking through ten steps in the executable (where the only one that actually matters is the license - when was the last time you wanted to install somewhere else than C:\Program Files?). Don't even think about "give me this, this, this, and this; check that it is the right version from a trusted source; make it so!" (PortableApps can do that, so it's demonstrably possible, even on Windows) Progress? We don't need no steenking progress! Package managers are for lusers who prefer clicky GUIs over Glorious Hard Work and spelunking in the dark corners of the net! (How that ever got pushed as user-friendly?)
- dagw 10y agoWell Windows 10 finally includes all the tools for package management out of the box. Now they just have to convince people to use them.
- Piskvorrr 10y agoWonderful!
- garaetjjte 10y agoAFAIK not for Win32 apps.
- annnnd 10y agoOn a side note, it is interesting how many incredible projects started from KDE (and how few survived or at least gained major traction): KMail, KDevelop, KOffice, not to mention Konqueror - KHTML / Webkit lives on, but Konqueror users are very rare. Does anyone know why this is happening?
- allendoerfer 10y agoDon't want to diminish KDE, but how is that incredible considering that for each of these there is a much more popular GTK or even Gnome project software?
- sho_hn 10y agoHmm, is there? KHTML/WebKit: I don't think the GTK/Gnome folks ever wrote a browser engine. KDevelop: Did the GTK/Gnome folks ever write a significant IDE with a code model? Krita: It's focused on painting/illustration and doesn't directly complete with Gimp. Among artists doing this Krita is likely more popular than Gimp now, since the latter isn't even in the running. (Support for MyPaint brushes is progress on that front, though painters want many other features.) For KMail/Kontact there's Evolution, but arguably neither ever became really popular if you compare them to, say, Thunderbird.
- mpercy 10y agoI think it's because Qt has traditionally had a pretty weird dual- or tri-licensing model: https://www.qt.io/faq/#_Toc453700684 https://www.qt.io/faq/#_Toc453700684 which resulted in less adoption by developers because of the viral nature of the GPL. IIRC, it used to be that even the core Qt libs were GPL (unless you paid for a commercial license), while now most (but still not all) libs are also available under the LGPL. GTK has always been plain LGPL 2. Nothing scary.
- Zardoz84 10y agoDon't forget Reconq web broswer. It was pretty faster compared against Firefox and Chrome, and was using WebKit. Sadly, died...
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